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Happy Tripping
Senior Member Joined: 27 May 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 473 |
Topic: can we use auto antifreeze in the toilet? Posted: 31 Dec 2018 at 7:22am |
Recently, on a trip we ran out of trailer antifreeze in our winterized r-pod and used car stuff instead to flush the toilet.
Is this harmful in anyway? I don't see how or why, but .... The most important harm might be to the toilet valve's material.
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furpod
Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128 |
Posted: 31 Dec 2018 at 8:21am |
I don't think it will be a problem.. As far as the camper and tanks are concerned..
There are some issues with dumping it.. It isn't supposed to go into municipal or septic waste systems... |
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crankster78
Senior Member Joined: 08 May 2018 Location: Minn Online Status: Offline Posts: 163 |
Posted: 31 Dec 2018 at 9:25am |
Greetings It's very harmful to pets and other small creatures. Dulute it with water don't dump it on the ground. Crankster78 R-179
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2654 |
Posted: 31 Dec 2018 at 10:12am |
Just use non-toxic antifreeze. That's usually propylene glycol. Like this.
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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Happy Tripping
Senior Member Joined: 27 May 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 473 |
Posted: 01 Jan 2019 at 7:26am |
Thank for your responses.
From what I can tell - regular antifreeze will have no effect on the black tank, far from inhibiting bacteria and their degradation of 'stuff', at low concentrations bacteria love antifreeze. https://dowac.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5207 Dumping the black tank with the car antifreeze in it is not a problem because of the low concentration of the car antifreeze in the black tank. I'm still worried about damage to the the toilet valves if the car antifreeze sits there for a prolonged time, so I will continue to use the car antifreeze to flush the toilet, but after each trip, will use the pink stuff to keep the toilet seals wet. If any of this is wrong, I am confident that someone here will let me know .
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
Posted: 01 Jan 2019 at 7:58am |
Using it once in an "emergency" is one thing, but continuing to use it after you've had the opportunity to get some regular non-toxic RV antifreeze seems a bit much. The RV stuff is a fraction of the cost of cooling system antifreeze too. TT
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6326 |
Posted: 01 Jan 2019 at 8:48am |
RV antifreeze also does not contain the additional anti-corrosion chemicals needed to prevent corrosion in the 200+ degree F environment of the engine and car radiator. I agree that a one-time use in a pinch might be acceptable, but not on a regular basis. Then it turns into a case of Failure to Plan is Planning to Fail. Every Walmart that I have been in carries RV antifreeze so unless you are dry camping in the middle of nowhere, you should be able to find and purchase RV antifreeze to use.
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StephenH
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mcarter
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Posted: 01 Jan 2019 at 8:56am |
I think you'd have to see some extended, really cold temps to freeze a black tank. I would never use toxic anti-freeze unless I had a way to recover it. Not a habit you want to get into.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3257 |
Posted: 01 Jan 2019 at 9:57am |
+1 Good idea to recycle the antifreeze, even the rv pink stuff. Even though we have easy access for recycling antifreeze, I still use just 16 oz. each year to winterize our 177.
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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Happy Tripping
Senior Member Joined: 27 May 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 473 |
Posted: 01 Jan 2019 at 10:27am |
With all due contempt to California, I think
that there is an unreasonable 'eek' factor at work here seen too often in the
way that state reacts to minimal or even imaginary hazards. Car antifreeze is definitely poisonous to
mammals because of the way we metabolize it. I don't intend to drink the
contents of our black tank. I have already shown that in low concentrations, it's
actually beneficial for bacteria. At low concentrations, it also has no
significant harm to plants. So what's the problem? |
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