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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
Topic: Generator Question Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 9:35am |
No worries. My point was that the Easystart works well and takes the strain off both pieces of equipment, kind like the Siemens Soft Start used to start hydraulic pumps in elevators. I'm glad I followed your recommendation. The motor doesn't start with a huge jolt, but nicely slides into operation, easing the stress on everything. As with people, less stress equals a longer service life.
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offgrid
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Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:50am |
Sorry LA, when I said "it's probably not needed for a 3kw" I meant the preliminary startup of the blower to take the genny out of eco mode, not the soft start sequence itself. That it certainly sounds like you need for your particular generator.
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lostagain
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Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:28am |
I tried our 3400/3100W dual fuel, running on LP, with our AC and it struggled in the start up. It may make it through, but it's obviously hard on both the AC and the generator. With the Easystart, nothing is stressed in the start up. It may not be "needed," but it sure works better with it. If the generator was fueled with gasoline, it'd probably start much better, but who wants to deal with gasoline and the stink?
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offgrid
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Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 4:26am |
The Easystart is designed to turn on the blower first. That takes your inverter generator out of low rpm "eco" mode before compressor startup. That way you have the benefit of less fuel consumption and quieter operation while the a/c is not running. It's probably not needed for a 3kw genny but a 2kw needs to be at full speed to startup the compressor.
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StephenH
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Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 10:24pm |
+1 I have noticed the same thing.
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StephenH
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 8:00pm |
I installed an Easystart recently and it works great. It was easy to put in, easy to go through the learning curve, and works as promised. I tried to run our AC with our Champion 3400W duel fuel, using LP which yields 3100W, before installing the Easystart. It could start it, but it struggled. Now, it works very well. I notice that with the Easystart, the fan starts up and is running while there is a brief delay for the AC to gradually come on. Seems to be much easier on the compressor as well as the generator.
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StephenH
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Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 6:13pm |
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StephenH
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 6:05pm |
The Easystart is for sure not just a hard start cap. It does a microprocessor controlled staged start of the a/c and reduces the startup current to about 1/3 vs a small decrease with a hard start cap.
Neither one has any effect after startup, so if the small decrease from the hard start cap is enough to get your genny to hang in there then use that, if not get an Easystart. I don't like plugging in a hot load so I use StephenH's procedure and close the 30A breaker instead. |
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Olddawgsrule
Senior Member Joined: 20 Sep 2017 Location: New Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1014 |
Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 4:06pm |
I do wish you the best as you spend your $$$. I look at what the item does and work out the process. Safe Travels! |
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StephenH
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Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 3:59pm |
I would have to disagree that an EasyStart is a capacitor. It may contain one or more, but it also has a microprocessor as it learns the starting pattern of the compressor so it will work when on mains power or when it is using a generator. It has to be "trained."
I tried a hard-start capacitor, and sure enough, it made the AC hard to start. The EasyStart is worlds different. View the video on the Micro-Air site and you will see what I mean. |
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