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    Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 5:35pm
You should still drive a ground rod for safety. This just addresses the floating ground.

It will also bond for the 30A plug. Simple surge protectors will only show a fault. Some of the fancier ones will not allow power to turn on if it senses this fault. That is the reason for the bonding plug. 
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And this will fix the ground on the 30amp plug as well?  Does this actually accomplish anything safety wise or will it just satisfy my surge protector?
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Most, if not all, generators of this type have what is called a "floating ground." Even if you drive a ground rod, you may have this. What you need is a Bonding Plug. You can purchase them, or if you want, you can easily make one.

Parts needed:  One male grounding plug such as this one from Lowe's or Home Depot:


Short length of AWG10 or 12 wire, 10 preferred.

Sealant for hole if desired

Directions:

Open the plug.
Identify the terminals. Brass color is the hot wire, silver the neutral wire, and green is the ground wire connection.
Cut a short length (as in a couple of inches) of wire. Strip enough off of the ends to connect to the terminals.
Connect one end to the neutral (silver) terminal.
Bend and connect the other end to the ground (green) terminal.
Close the plug. Add sealant to the open hole to seal it up if desired (I did).
When the sealant is cured, it is ready to use.

How to use:  Plug this bonding plug into one of the 15A outlets. You will no longer have a floating neutral and your surge protector will be happy.

Why does this work? When you connect to a shore power connection, the neutral and ground are bonded at the breaker panel. When you plug into your generator, they are not bonded. The bonding plug does this so your power source is recognized by your surge protector to be set up properly.
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Well the gen set had the proper plug in for the 30 amp cord so no adaptor was needed.  I was able to get the AC to start up 3 times with no issues.  One question do you need to take a spike and connect it to the gen set ground mine has a connection that says to externally ground.  Reason I ask is when I connected my surge protector I didn't get a blue light that would indicate it was grounded?  I will try to post some pics when I get a chance but is seems like this is going to work.  As with others it is pretty quiet on eco but louder when off and running the AC.....but 60 lbs and I got it for $460.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pedwards2932 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2021 at 6:08pm
Yes I know when I get it in I will see what I need to get it to work.
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I'm not sure if you realize, but a generator 30 amp plug, is not the same as an R.V. 30 amp plug. So you will not be able to plug directly into it. You'll need an adaptor. 
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Yes gas powered

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Sounds promising, but I am assuming this is a gas powered unit only? Not dual fuel?

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Originally posted by pedwards2932

I am taking what i consider to be a real calculated risk.  I ordered a gen set from Amazon that is returnable (calculated risk).  It is 3300 starting and 2800 running watt and has a 30 amp plug.  I won't say what brand or anything yet, just that it is a Chinese build but from what I have seen most of them are built in China.  Weighs 52 lbs and has a 145 cc OHV engine.  I am going to try it out as soon as I get it and see if it will run my AC.  I know from experience a lot of these type of units are purchased by importers that put whatever name they decide on them.  It could be a gigantic mistake but I can send it back if it doesn't work.
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I would wager it was imported by Honeywell that they didn't actually make it.  Same with a Craftsman they have someone else (China) build it).  The company that actually builds the one I am getting has been around since 2010.  I would suspect if I wanted to import enough of them they would put any name I wanted on it......I could call it Bill or George anything but Sue.  They don't build the engines either so you get whatever manufactorer they use.
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There is another consideration. Years ago, we got a small 2KW generator made by Honeywell. It worked well, was quiet, and we considered it a good value relative to a similar Honda generator. Then something went wrong with it (can't remember the details), but the big problem was that Honeywell have exited the business, and you could not get parts for it.

I've had similar issues with generic gas grills vs Weber gas grills. The former will work for a while, and then you throw them away. The Weber came with a replacement parts booklet, and you can still buy parts for them (although they also last longer).
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