Octane grade for towing |
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lgblau
Senior Member Joined: 09 Feb 2018 Location: Arizona Online Status: Offline Posts: 140 |
Topic: Octane grade for towing Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 8:51am |
Wow...So much for the great responses. I guess I had better just look for gasoline that is really 87 octane, and not something lower. Thx anyhow.
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Leonard🌵
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2653 |
Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 8:44am |
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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FrayAdjacent
Newbie Joined: 10 Jun 2018 Location: TX Online Status: Offline Posts: 31 |
Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 12:51am |
There is no more energy in higher octane fuel. It is not more powerful. It is more resistant to compression ignition, or detonation. You get no more power from using higher octane fuel if your engine is not tuned for it. If your engine IS tuned for higher octane, then using lower octane will usually cost you power as most modern engine control modules will compensate for lower octane by retarding ignition. |
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 4:56pm |
Glue, yes, there was a lot of editorializing in Mr. Cadagon's video about the oil company marketers, but I got from his comments, that high compression ration vehicles did perform better on higher octane. What I heard, was use the octane that your manufacturer recommends, which with high compression and turbo motors means high octane. But my old Dodge 4.7L is happy as a clam on 87 and won't really benefit from the costly gas.
What has me confused is when you go to the other side of Nowhere, in exotic places like UT and western CO you see octane ratings in the 84 and 85 range as the basic regular and 87 is a premium level. I understand that altitude affects the octane rating but I live at the same basic altitude, and we only see 87. So when I'm in UT do I need 85 or 87? Beats me. I put in 87 in the last place I gassed up in UT on US50 and when I got to civilization in just inside NV, near Baker, 87 was once again the "regular" gas. WTF, did I get bamboozled once again by Phillips 66? There was absolutely no discernible difference in the power and my mileage sucked because of a horrible headwind all afternoon crossing UT. Once in civilization in NV it was like unicorns were pulling my truck in the morning sun.
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 4:08pm |
Great observation - depending upon the engine. I guess I need to spend more time watching foreign websites. I gave that up with Godzilla movies.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2653 |
Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 3:33pm |
That was a pretty funny video lostagain. BUT, it was mostly just a dissertation of the guy's opinions. Here is another video that does more than just spout an opinion or two. It does show pretty convincingly that the octane rating will make a difference... DEPENDING on the engine. Pedestrian engines designed to run on lower octane fuel see no advantage. Higher performance engines (High compression and/or turbo or super charging) can see significant advantages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQghB4asSnI
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 1:48pm |
There is a very thorough explanation of octane in a YouTube video by John Cadogan of AutoExpert.com.au. It is very informative as well as entertaining for it's irreverence. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYlk9C1o0nk but,
VIEWER WARNING - Mr. Cadogan is from Australia and does not share views about certain popular (or not so popular, depending on your political perspective) figures in the USA. Someone with a more conservative orientation may have hurt feelings or be offended. So, if you may be offended DO NOT WATCH THE VIDEO.
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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lgblau
Senior Member Joined: 09 Feb 2018 Location: Arizona Online Status: Offline Posts: 140 |
Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 10:09am |
Yeah, really, Fred.🤓
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Leonard🌵
2017/179 2017 Ram 1500 |
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 7:25am |
this may help:
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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Danielw1
Senior Member Joined: 01 Apr 2017 Location: Oregon Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 11:42pm |
I asked the question on the f150 forum. Many good Reply’s here:
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/3-5-eco-premium-while-towing-419443/index2/ |
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