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lostagain
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Topic: Hot water heater Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 8:42am |
Every time you open the filling port you potentially are going to have bacteria entering your tank. All it takes is a little wisp of wind picking up some bacteria from the ground, and off you go. You have nice warm water in a closed environment where the bacteria can grow as they please.
It's not that I'm fanatic about bacteria in water. Indeed, I am of the opinion that we need some exposure to bacteria of many types to "exercise" our immune system. I certainly would not advocate autoclaving your silverware in the off chance a pseudomonas germ might be on a spoon. Quite frankly, we have to eat a certain amount of dirt in our lives, it's just a question of how much and what's in it. My issue with tank water is twofold: It often tastes like the plastic tank, which is not very good, and the warm standing water has a higher likelihood of getting contaminated than some gallon containers of filtered drinking water. For those who don't mind the taste of plastic tanks, if they use reasonable efforts to periodically "sanitize" the tank, the chances of getting sick are probably pretty slim, so drink and enjoy. Or you can take W.C. Fields advice about the consumption of water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ruJRN5URL8
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StephenH
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Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 8:16am |
We use a filter when filling the tank and also when connecting to city water. That way, I reduce the probability of introducing bad things into the system after sanitizing. I have no problem using the water in the R-Pod's fresh water tank for drinking.
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StephenH
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Tars Tarkas
Senior Member Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 7:51am |
I don't drink a lot of water, but I agree that with a little care there should be no reason not to use water from the Pod tank for drinking. Too each his or her own, but I suspect the Pod water system is about as good as any water system; better than some. Sanitizing from time to time and filling from a good source are part what one needs to do.
We make coffee and we rehydrate a lot of dried or instant foods. We use the tap in the Pod for that and brushing teeth. I think chlorinated water is probably the best choice whenever possible, but you don't necessarily know what you're getting when you fill up at a campground. Does anyone know of any good chlorine tablets you could add to your tank as you're filling it? TT |
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Happy Tripping
Senior Member Joined: 27 May 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 473 |
Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 6:41am |
"... sanitizing" once a year with a little bleach is not going to ensure that nasty bugs ... don't get into your fresh water tank ...
Perhaps this needs a different thread, ... There's no way a bug of any sort can get into our trailer's water tanks unless we put it there. Just add treated water or, I suppose, water from a source such as a well that you are SURE is free of bad things. Not using the pod's water tank for drinking is failing to take advantage of one of our trailer's strengths, the independence provided by self-sufficiency (But I'm originally from the midwest with STRONG tasting water and a little chlorine taste doesn't bother me at all). Different strokes ...
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henryv
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Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 5:47am |
Good comments gentlemen.
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 11:24pm |
And "sanitizing" once a year with a little bleach is not going to ensure that nasty bugs like giardia (common in camping areas) don't get into your fresh water tank after you've treated it. The best thing to do is not to drink tank water. Use it for washing, cooking and such, but for drinking bring some bottled water for drinking.
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6326 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 10:01pm |
Unfortunately, the hot water heater does not get nearly hot enough to sterilize it. 130 degrees may be hot to us, but some bacteria can (especially in spore form) survive much higher temperatures. That is why autoclaves use 15 pounds of pressure for 15 minutes for terminal sterilization.
Quote from Wikipedia: "Many autoclaves are used to sterilize equipment and supplies by subjecting them to high-pressure saturated steam at 121 °C (249 °F) for around 15–20 minutes depending on the size of the load and the contents." Chlorine will kill bacteria at a much lower temperature. That is why we use it. |
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StephenH
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 8:21pm |
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that if the "sanitizing" solution gets into the water heater it certainly isn't going to hurt the tank since the bleach solution is so diluted. You just want to be sure to flush it out, maybe even drain the tank, or you might have some residual chlorine taste, like the water in some municipalities. Depending on how hot the water gets, it's going to kill most of the bacteria even if you don't let the chlorine solution get in it.
Having experienced "tank water" on a sail boat, our practice is to bring gallon bottles of filtered drinking water from home and use the "potable" water in the trailer tank for washing dishes, cooking, brushing teeth, and bathing.
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Tars Tarkas
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Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 7:59pm |
It may depend on how much clorox you used. You want to get rid of the bleach taste. I leave the water in the water heater; drain the potable tank, refill it, and run the water through all of the faucets until all taste and smell of bleach is gone. I run a lot of water through the hot water heater. Then drain the tank again. You don't have to drain the water heater, but draining the water tank will eventually drain the water heater, so make sure it's full before you turn on the burners again. As for the valves, search google images for "winterizing RV water heater". If the valve is perpendicular to the pipe the valve is off, or closed, if it's in line with the pipe, it's on, or open, Given that you should be able to visuallize how to set them, but for summer use, the outside pair of valves should be open and the single valve on the cross pipe should be closed. This forum is great but there is no substitute for hands on experience. Get in there and do it and it will all quickly come together and make sense. TT |
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Leo B
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Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 6:40pm |
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