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    Posted: 05 Aug 2019 at 8:54am
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I'm a ham, so I use my Honda 2000 inverter a lot.  It's about 12 years old and still runs great.  I change oil after every use and use synthetic.  I have been looking at the Harbor Freight 3000 inverter.  It won't last as long, but I'm not going to live forever either.  I have worked with small engines.  Changing oil is the key to making them last.  Inverters run quiet which is important when I dry camp.
I would buy a set of lightweight ramps and have a small come-a-long to get it back into the truck if I buy the 3000.

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Good generator, to big and heavy for me. Weigh about 80lbs, are wheeled and a bit over 2K cost wise.
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Whay about a good 3000 watt honda generator?
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The Honda Handi 3000 only weighs 78 pounds. The HF unit is a hundred. I might try my 2000. But it is only 1600 watts continuous. Anyway that clears up my question. Thanks for the input. 
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Originally posted by podwerkz

And if you can get a parallel kit and second identical unit, you could still lift the same weight (twice) and yet have more power available when needed.

The Generac iX2000 is not parallel capable so a parallel kit is a moot point. On top of that, it is also discontinued.
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Originally posted by AlaskaAviator

I have a 2000 watt honda but don't think I'll even try it. Am thinking this is the one I would get

EU3000IH1A Handi 3,000W.

A lot more money than the HF model but I would have a hard time trusting it.

Why not try the Honda since you already own it? My Honda 2k runs my a/c fine as long as nothing else is on, including the charger, It would not start  the a/c until I installed the easy start. Now it starts just fine. Note that the startup load of the standard a/c compressor is at least 2-3x the run load. The easy start isn't cheap but its a whole lot less than a new genny and won't trigger the need for lumbar disk surgery. 
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I would need to get some ramps or a hoist to load it in our pickup for travel. I can lift our iX2000, so we are sticking with it for now.
 

And if you can get a parallel kit and second identical unit, you could still lift the same weight (twice) and yet have more power available when needed.
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Posts: 3419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Aug 2019 at 3:20pm
Seems like this never goes away. I agree with SH do some research. The question is how much of your capabilities do you want to run. I have been running a Pod AC for years with a Generac IX 2000, the AC and nothing else that is a considerable load. You can't run AC and the Micro, and I found easier if I disable the Converter. So BLUF is depending upon battery charge, I can choose between AC and charging the battery. What did you want to do? If you want it all, you can't do that with a 2K genset. If you are old with a bad back, 3Ks are out of the question. Not an option for me. So I chose a genset that allows me to do what I need and still transport and move it.
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That is because the 2000 watt Honda is most likely actually a 1600 watt continuous/2000 watt starting current generator. The labeling of generators with their peak current instead of the continuous watt capability is misleading at best, deceptive at worst.

The Generac iX2000 is 2000 watt continuous, 2200 watt starting current generator. That is one reason I bought it. The Harbor Freight Predator 3500 gets high review ratings and, if taken care of, should last. Two key factors are keeping the oil in good shape (use synthetic) and only using non-ethanol gasoline with gasoline stabilizer. Many small engines are discarded when all that is needed is a new carburetor  because the owner used ethanol gasoline which gummed up the jets so it does not run. Using non-ethanol gasoline avoids a lot of problems.

Edit: I have seen the HF Predators in action with various food trucks. Every food truck owner I have spoken with about them has spoken highly of them. They are the ones that said that maintaining the oil is part of the key to keeping them running well. They are also very quiet while running which is a big plus.
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