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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Topic: Battery disconnect switch Posted: 29 Jul 2021 at 8:56pm |
Nope, the whole system is not grounded if you put the switch in the negative, because you are breaking the grounded conductor. So if you left a load on and disconnected the negative the whole negative side of the system would be hot. The article you read is totally wrong, it is an electric code violation to break the neural/grou ded conductor. And the Code does apply to RVs.
Put the switch in the positive conductor which is where every other switch and fuse in the trailer is located as well. |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6326 |
Posted: 29 Jul 2021 at 6:40pm |
No. The smaller is for connecting a solar panel into the system. The heavier battery cables connect to the converter and are used both for powering items when there is no shore power or for recharging the battery.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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LAPod
Newbie Joined: 22 Jun 2021 Location: Los Angeles, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
Posted: 29 Jul 2021 at 3:10pm |
I could be mistaken, but if you're putting the switch on the negative at the battery, I believe the whole system will still be grounded, albeit disconnected from the battery. I think the grounding would stay in place elsewhere. At the end of this article from Car & Driver, it mentions that disconnect switches should be on negative cables... https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a26873586/car-battery-disconnecting/. And here's a second article explaining why they suggest on negative: https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/kill-switch-positive-or-negative/ Most references I've seen have said negative, but I am not sure, which is how I came to this thread. Also, on the Rpod, there are two sets of wires connecting to the battery posts. A larger and smaller gauge set. I'm guessing the switch should be on the larger gauge only? Is the smaller gauge for the recharge from the converter? TIA!
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 26 May 2021 at 6:19am |
The reasoning for placing the switch in the positive/hot/ungrounded conductor is the same as for any other fuse, switch, or circuit breaker in your trailer, house, and any other building. If you leave the negative/neutral/ungrounded conductors intact then you know you have everything safely tied to chassis ground and to your house/campground ground when you are on shore power. The electric code requires this (with very few exceptions) and contrary to a common misunderstanding the code applies to low voltage DC systems.
I think the confusion probably comes from the recommendation to disconnect the battery negative first while doing maintenance. That is done so you don't inadvertently short a tool to the chassis which could happen if you disconnect the positive first. But temporary maintenance and repair activity is not the same as a permanent switch. So disconnect your negative first, then your positive, install the switch in the positive conductor, and reconnect the negative. Or better yet, use tools with insulated handles around batteries. You can tape up a couple of wrenches for that purpose. |
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mountainman
Newbie Joined: 24 Apr 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
Posted: 25 May 2021 at 8:08pm |
Sorry, yes I did replace both with Interstate batteries.
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campman
Senior Member Joined: 26 Mar 2021 Location: La Salle, MB Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
Posted: 25 May 2021 at 8:04pm |
Mountainman, I have tried to hold back and not bother you about it but can't hold back anymore as it might help you down the road...you added a new battery. Is it an exact match for your original battery...same age, manufacturer, size, rating, and a dedicated deep cycle battery?
If the original battery is well used, it is a different size etc, then you may inadvertently shorten the life of your new battery as it will try to do all the work. You want them to charge and discharge as evenly as possible, which is why it is best to change them as a pair. This is true for 12 volt as well as 6 volt batteries. Andy |
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Andy and Laurie
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campman
Senior Member Joined: 26 Mar 2021 Location: La Salle, MB Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
Posted: 25 May 2021 at 7:54pm |
OG, I thought it went on the positive side as well, but Mountainman asked for instruction on how to put it on the negative side so that is what I found and posted.
Sounds like an active discussion may ensue, different views will be shared and I will learn a bit more if it does. ;-) Andy |
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Andy and Laurie
'16 F150 5.0 4X4 w/factory tow pkg '21 RP192 "If the women don't find you handsome...at least let them find you handy!" Red-Green |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 25 May 2021 at 7:42pm |
You should put the disconnect in the positive (ungrounded) cable not the negative (grounded) conductor. Code is to always disconnect the hot line never the grounded one. That leaves all you appliances properly groundcreferenced.
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campman
Senior Member Joined: 26 Mar 2021 Location: La Salle, MB Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
Posted: 25 May 2021 at 7:28pm |
Here is a basic video from RV DIY..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxddcFI5QQI And another video to watch, for good measure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5hIxEtZDDo Hope this helps, Andy |
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Andy and Laurie
'16 F150 5.0 4X4 w/factory tow pkg '21 RP192 "If the women don't find you handsome...at least let them find you handy!" Red-Green |
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mountainman
Newbie Joined: 24 Apr 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
Posted: 25 May 2021 at 7:11pm |
I recently added a 2nd 12 volt battery to my unit, in parallel. I want to add a battery disconnect switch, using the negative cable. The unit I bought did not come with instructions.
Which cable goes where and to which post on the switch, on or off side? Any help will be appreciated.
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