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    Posted: 28 Nov 2013 at 10:39am
Elkmont was very quiet. Just the relaxing sound of the river. Not a lot of campers. We saw about 8 tent campers huddled in their cars with the heat on during the coldest night. I had already winterized so we didn't use any plumbing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 7:15pm
Elkmont is great this time of year.  We tend to prefer Smokemont for easy camping most of the year just because Elkmont can get a bit rowdy at times.  Think a solo camper playing Jimmy Buffett badly on his guitar and throwing glass beer bottles in the fire pit until after midnight.

Did you winterize or did you use any of your plumbing?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Nov 2013 at 1:36pm
To all. Thanks for all the useful comments. Got back yesterday after 3 nights at Elkmont right on the river in Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Had a blast. Only had to use the furnace one night when it went down to 15. Stayed toasty warm. No problem with anything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 6:45pm
Being the cheapskate that I am, I usually try to save $$ whenever possible.  I travel with 2 tanks on my 177 so if one does go empty the back-up second tank will be more than enough to see me through the duration of the trip.  I can't go on long trips like some of you (yep, still working full-time) not old enough, wise enough to retire . . . yet, . . . . .  . . .  so the longest my wife and I go are 2 week stints at a time.  I am amazed how long 1 tank lasts.  With all the cooking, heating (furnace) and hot water usage a tank will see us through the better part of a whole year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 4:22pm
That's generally true about exchange tanks being more expensive -- probably always true.  They say there's some sort of safety issue in filling the tanks all the way.  I never tried to understand that and tend to think there is a certain amount of bull in that story. In any case, I've never paid more than about $20 for a 20# exchange tank and, for me anyway, the convenience is often worth a few bucks.  Especially when you're on the road or in an unfamiliar area, finding someone to fill a tank can be a trick and involve more time and gasoline than the savings of a weighed and filled tank.  Plus, a lot of places that fill 20# tanks charge a flat rate anyway.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 2:48pm
An interesting fact about propane tanks:  IF you can fill up at a hardware store or other where they fill you by weight you will get a much better deal, paying for your propane by the gallon.  IF you decide to exchange your tank at a gas station or similar you will pay a much higher price, even if they only charge 20 -25 dollars to exchange your tank you are not getting a full tank.  After getting an exchange (in this case Blue Rhino) I got the tank weighed at the hardware store where I normally purchase propane by the gallon.  Come to find out the tank is only 75% filled.  Went back to the gas station and let them know, they just smiled and said, "Yep, we know, that is the way it is."  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 2013 at 9:41am
As long as it warms up in the daytime, just insulating the fresh water pick up line from the fresh water
tank should be enough. I am assuming the day time temps will be close to 50.  Your battery will be the deciding factor in running the heater. Running it 1 hour total from just before bed, running once in middle of night and then again when waking up will run down the a group 24 battery a third.
Led's should come standard in all RV/ trailers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 10:08pm
Just back this evening from 4+ days in the Smokies.  First night was down to 21.  Nothing new to add about propane or batteries -- the advice so far is very good. 

Regarding winterizing or freezing water lines, I filled up the fresh water tank when we pulled into the campground (no hookups) and I took the kick-board cover off in front of the water pump and turned the water heater on.  I got up several times during the night to check the temp and make sure the water wasn't getting hard.  It made it through absolutely fine.  Inside temp was maybe 60.  The prediction, which turned put to be true, was for warmer nights ahead.  I might not have taken a chance that first night if it was predicted to stay cold or get colder.

Oh yeah.  One thing about propane is that in TN and NC places that will swap out 20 pound tanks are almost ubiquitous. The price is around $15 right now.  If you do run out, you trade in your old tank for new one and just keep going.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Nov 2013 at 10:44am
Our experiences with cold camping go back 2 years when we were at Glacier N.P.  Temps at night got to 34-38 every night.  Was nervous about freezing our water lines.  However, that being said, our propane lasted 6 nights and our battery was changed out after the 3rd night because it was down to a 25% charge at that time and an expert (my older brother) told me to never draw your marine battery down below that level.  We had l.e.d. lights on throughout every evening, they hardly draw any amp.s at all.  We hiked during the day so the furnace only ran during the evening hours, normally from 7p.m. to 8 a.m.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 6:42pm

I had forgotten about that thread.  That was probably the best one on the subject of charging via the TV.  I'm sure you noticed the two supposed "experts" on that thread completely contradicted themselves several times... Wacko 

Lefty, the problem is the furnace is the single largest user of amps from the battery and propane from the LPG tank.  Yes, the propane should last you three nights.  That might be true at 30-40 degrees, but you may go through most of your propane if it is 10 F outside.  Then your battery is likely not going to last you 3 nights at those temps...

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