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Sleepless
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Topic: flat tire Posted: 01 Mar 2014 at 4:09pm |
Originally posted by techntrek
I wonder if that difference comes from the older bias tires vs. the newer radials. Better sidewall strength? |
Perhaps even a bigger factor is the change from the older rusting steel wheels of yesteryear to the modern alloy of today. I used to spend hours sanding the rust off of old steel wheels before they would seal to the bead.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2014 at 11:28am |
I live in a community that has several rv parks and live in a area one road in and out. I've seen a lot ov shall I say interesting stuff and one is flat tires. Some times we hear the flop flop of a flat going by the house,even the music of a trailer running on the rim,mostly on double axel trailer. But sometimes single axel. Other interesting thing such as,wheel bearings smoking,awnings hanging out, and once a forgotten slider. But one thing I know is that I have never seen a tire repaired on the spot, one reason is they are too far gone and almost always the bead is broken. My 50 ft wide driveway is the first wide spot to pull over comming into town.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2014 at 4:31pm |
I wonder if that difference comes from the older bias tires vs. the newer radials. Better sidewall strength?
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Posted: 26 Feb 2014 at 9:59pm |
As I mentioned, my problem with beads goes back several years. Back in the late 70's and the 80's I was into restoring the older British sports cars. Almost every time I had a flat, the tire bead separated from the wheel. I had the same experience whenever I had a flat on one of my popup trailers. These were all 10" wheels. I don't recall having any similar problems with tires on my full size cars or trailers in recent (last 25) years.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2014 at 9:47pm |
Originally posted by techntrek
Never had a bead problem except on my small tractor tires.
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Ah, now that you mention that -- I knew I had some sort of experience with broken beads. Yes, with a riding lawnmower, a wheelbarrow, or a two-wheeler hand truck I have dealt with broken beads. Little tires with practically no air in them to begin with and hardly any sidewall strength can definitely have bead problems. 14 inch trailer tires are more likely to have problems than larger TV tires too. TT
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Posted: 26 Feb 2014 at 9:01pm |
Never had a bead problem except on my small tractor tires.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2014 at 8:50pm |
Originally posted by Sleepless
many times, perhaps most times, the tire bead will separate from the wheel.
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We have had very different experiences with flats. It's been a while for me too, but I don't think I can recall ever have the bead separate from the wheel. It's interesting that your experience is so different. As for plugs, they generally work well, but I'm pretty sure they void tire warranties. TT
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Posted: 26 Feb 2014 at 3:57pm |
obviously if the bead would separate, the tire would likly need to be taken off or another step taken to inflate. i have never had a bead separate from a basic flat and have been able to plug successfully 99% of the time.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2014 at 3:40pm |
I have not had a flat for many years. But, based on past experience, many times, perhaps most times, the tire bead will separate from the wheel. Even if you are able to plug the tires, there is a good chance that you will not be able to inflate it unless you are somehow able to eliminate the separation between the bead and the wheel. I used to use tension strap around the tire to seal the bead all around the tire so it could be inflated. Very seldom have I been able to merely plug the tire and inflate it.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2014 at 8:08am |
Originally posted by hogone
blown, just flat........... plug and inflate |
Yup, I carry a tire plug set and air pump in every car. I've only had one tire over the years that couldn't be repaired on the rim.
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