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TheBum
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Topic: Inverter to power 110v outlets off-grid? Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 3:13pm |
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I'd advise getting some 1/2" plywood to reinforce the wall where the new outlet goes. The wall is only about 1/8" thick otherwise. You'll notice that FR did that when they mounted the other outlets. |
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johnmaci
Senior Member Joined: 17 Jun 2014 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 202 |
Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 2:03pm | |
I like this idea....Thanks!
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Don Halas
Senior Member Joined: 01 Jul 2015 Location: Connecticut Online Status: Offline Posts: 190 |
Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 12:00pm | |
We're carrying this 500 watt inverter:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019PTST18/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 But it's only in case we need to grind coffee beans, use a hand mixer or in the event of an emergency turn on the television. |
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TheBum
Senior Member Joined: 26 Feb 2016 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 1407 |
Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 11:13am | |
I installed a new outlet on the wall where the television outlet is. If I need inverter power elsewhere, I just run an extension cord.
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WillThrill
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Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 11:03am | |
Good advice. Most people aren't aware that a toaster can easily draw 1,000 watts, and a juicer can draw several hundred. Coffee makers can draw 1,500 watts. You aren't going to power these items with anything less than a large (i.e. 1,600 watt or larger) inverter with thick (2 gauge or bigger) wires very tightly clamped directly onto the batteries. It sounds like a lot of salt for a nickel to me.
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Rustler
Senior Member Joined: 07 May 2016 Location: S. Oregon Coast Online Status: Offline Posts: 100 |
Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 3:37am | |
I'm by no means an electrician, but something about your proposal sounds like there might be an electrical issue. You would be drawing off the 12 volt bus to provide 120 volts with your inverter. If you wire the inverter output to your 120 outlets you are also connecting to the input (120 volts) of your converter. Said converter is providing 12 volt charging to your battery system. Something about this circular electrical connection sounds troublesome. As you draw battery voltage down with your inverter, the converter senses that and tries to recharge the battery using 120 volts supplied by the inverter. At the very least you should turn off the converter circuit breaker to break that circular (perpetual motion?) arrangement. Anything that relies on the user remembering to turn things on or off is an opportunity for errors that could result in electrical damage or fire. I would just have an electrician look things over.
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Russ
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techntrek
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Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 9:08pm | |
You would need to add an expensive bypass switch, so as suggested just use the built-in outlets on the inverter. You probably won't want to run high-amperage devices like a toaster or juicer.
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sailor323
Senior Member Joined: 11 Jun 2015 Location: S Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 281 |
Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 9:07pm | |
I like 12V power and have several 12V outlets in the pod. I do have some 12V appliances. I also use an inverter for 120V small appliances. If you hardwire an inverter to your system, you would definitely want to avoid hooking up to shore power if you don't have a means of disconnecting the inverter.
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john in idaho
Senior Member Joined: 04 Nov 2014 Location: Eagle Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 611 |
Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 7:38pm | |
Is a 2000 W generator not an option?
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johnmaci
Senior Member Joined: 17 Jun 2014 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 202 |
Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 7:24pm | |
Thanks for the replies. I have two 6v GC batteries, but it makes sense that it would still be a big draw power-wise. It's would be nice to use the outlets in the bathroom and run an electric toothbrush, shaver, etc,; In the kitchen a toaster or juicer, etc.....
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