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DaveS
Newbie Joined: 06 Nov 2014 Location: Vermont Online Status: Offline Posts: 17 |
Topic: Tow vehicle concerns Posted: 08 Oct 2016 at 8:43am |
Hi Ginger
Sorry didn't reply sooner but have been on the road using our RPOD. We have a 2014 178. We just returned from a 7000 mile 7 week trip that started from the east coast through Colo., Utah and Wyoming and back. We tow with a 2014 Toyota Venza V6 3.5L, it has a tow prep package ( Larger radiator, oil cooler, and larger alternator). The car is rated at 3500lbs towing. We had no problems towing the pod at 70 miles per hour on the highway, gas mileage is better at 60. The mountain passes were work for the car and could slow us to 45 mph on the really steep ones. The temps and RPMs on the engine were acceptable though. Only other comment is Toyota doesn't make the Venza anymore Good luck and would be interested in what you decide. Cheers, Dave
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Rustler
Senior Member Joined: 07 May 2016 Location: S. Oregon Coast Online Status: Offline Posts: 100 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2016 at 9:37pm |
You'll do fine, Ginger. While there's a lot of new things to consider, soon you'll feel more comfortable with it all. I've become much more adept with towing and backing the Rpod into campsites. It just comes with a bit of practice. This forum is a great resource. Just a note on towing. It's important to keep in mind the need to keep your tow vehicle and trailer in the center of your lane. On curves and corners be aware of the trailer cutting the corner a bit. Your mirrors will help you get a feeling for how the trailer is keeping "between the lines". This is especially important at gas stations and parking lots. Happy trails! Russ
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Russ
2009 Toyota RAV4 V6 w/ tow package 2016 Rpod 171 HRE |
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TheBum
Senior Member Joined: 26 Feb 2016 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 1407 |
Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 12:17pm |
We pull our 179 with a 2012 3.5L V6 Highlander and it does well. It's rated at 5000 pounds towing and we have the tow prep package (bigger alternator, transmission cooler, etc.).
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Ginger the Avenger
Newbie Joined: 22 Aug 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 10:43am |
So helpful! Grateful for your input:)
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6326 |
Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 10:14am |
Like Rustler, we also tow with a smaller vehicle with 3,500 lb rating. It is a 2016 Ford Escape SE with 2L Ecoboost engine and factory tow package. Our first major trip after picking up our R-Pod was to take it out west (from North Carolina) to see our daughters and their families. That was Nevada and Arizona. Since, I have towed it to Louisville, KY and two trips to the northeast, including the Green Mountains of Vermont and the Adirondacks of New York. Our trip included western North Carolina (Cherokee) and parts of the Blue Ridge Parkway. Some of the climbs were significant, especially when we left I81 to go to the last segment of the north end of the BRP. That was steep and winding, preventing us from building up any kind of speed. Engine and transmission heat were a problem, but as soon as we got on the BRP, the temperatures dropped to a better level as we were able to run at a speed sufficient to get adequate airflow across the radiator and transmission cooler. Turning the AC off helped also. It was not needed on the BRP as the temperatures were 15-20 degrees lower than they were on I81.
With the smaller vehicle, a good weight distribution hitch with sway control is essential. I wouldn't dream of towing the R-Pod without it. We have the Equal-i-zer 4-way sway control hitch with the 6,000 lb rating. One other thing that has helped was to install a wind deflector. I chose the AeroPlus by PurpleLine. It, together with limiting our top speed to 60 mph, has helped us to get between 14 and 16 mpg probably averaging about 15 mpg. Before we got it, and trying to hit 65 and 70 mph on that first trip, our mileage ranged from 8-14 mpg, mostly around 10-11 mpg. I would not necessarily recommend our tow vehicle, but it is the one we have and I can't afford to trade it. It will have to serve until we can afford to do so. I would like to get a tow vehicle with a Diesel engine when we do eventually replace our Escape. Meanwhile, I will continue to use the Escape to tow our EscaPOD. |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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Ginger the Avenger
Newbie Joined: 22 Aug 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 5:48am |
Good to know! Thank you:)!!!
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Ginger the Avenger
Newbie Joined: 22 Aug 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 5:47am |
This is incredibly helpful! Can't thank you enough for the detailed response:). Researching and purchasing the rPod was stressful enough! Throwing in this hunt for a new vehicle has me in a tailspin. Really appreciate your input!
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Rustler
Senior Member Joined: 07 May 2016 Location: S. Oregon Coast Online Status: Offline Posts: 100 |
Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 2:24am |
My wife and I have also purchased a Rpod 171, a 2016 model. We purposely chose that model for being the lightest of the 'pods. When our trailer is loaded it runs between 2700 and 3000 lbs. with minimal or no fresh water in the tank. This keeps the trailer below maximum gross vehicle weight (3225 lbs.). We have had good success towing with a mid-sized SUV - a 2009 Toyota RAV4, V-6 (5-speed, 269 HP, 3500 lbs. tow capacity). It has the tow package (transmission cooler, larger alternator and radiator), factory tow hitch receiver, & Husky Centerline weight-distributing, anti-sway hitch. So far we have been quite pleased with that as a tow vehicle. We live in Southwest Oregon which has its share of mountain grades. Since the speed limit is 55 mph for trailer towing, I keep the speed at 55 mph on two lane roads, always on the lookout for turnouts to let faster traffic get by. On the freeway, I'll get up to between 55 and 60, but occasionally pass slower traffic if there's a clearing in the fast lane. By keeping the speeds down like that the fuel mileage has been in the high 13's. I found that by using cruise control most of the time it runs in 4th gear on flat ground and only shifts to 5th on downhill runs. I started out manually making these gear changes, but discovered that cruise control did a better job than I did in noticing those slight down grades where top gear would be appropriate. For hill climbing, especially on freeways, I don't try to keep the speed up, since that often causes a downshift to lower gears and high RPMs. By switching off cruise control and keeping light pressure on the throttle, I can prevent down shifts, allowing the speed to get down to 45 MPH if necessary. Experience has taught me how much throttle I can apply without instigating a gas-guzzling down shift. Only on the steepest grades is it necessary for high RPMs to keep above 45 MPH. One interesting thing about towing the Rpod is that going down steep grades, there is seldom any need for braking, due to the Rpod's high wind resistance. Without the trailer, I usually need a lower gear or braking to avoid speed increasing. While there are benefits to tow vehicles with higher tow capacities, a mid-sized SUV is quite capable of towing the lighter Rpods. One just needs to be aware of vehicle weight limits and drive with some insight in recognition of the load you are towing. Rather than just guessing at trailer and tow vehicle loading I've found the "Spreadsheet for Rpod and Tow Vehicle Loading" to be useful. That thread has some discussion of the issues in loading. A copy of the Excel spreadsheet can be downloaded here. You can input your own vehicle specifics regarding loads, tow capacity, maximum tongue weight, front- & rear-maximum axle loading. I hope my experience will of use in your search for a new tow vehicle. Happy trails to you! |
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Russ
2009 Toyota RAV4 V6 w/ tow package 2016 Rpod 171 HRE |
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 29 Sep 2016 at 11:07pm |
The four wheel drive version of the Honda Pilot is rated at 4500#. we towed a 172 all over the country for a year an a half with little trouble. The Rockies were a slow climb, but we got there. 60 MPH at low altitudes no problem. Very well suited for Florida.
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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AmberKate
Newbie Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Location: Rockledge, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
Posted: 29 Sep 2016 at 10:54pm |
My Dodge Durango Ltd. with factory tow package has 6,000 tow capacity & Jeep Cherokee has 7200 with tow package.
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