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    Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 6:59pm
Rather than trying to re secure the counter top to the wall (it looks from the pictures that it's actually the backsplash) and risk having the screws keep pulling out, with bigger and bigger screw holes left behind, how about staining and sealing some 1/4 round molding and glue it or screw it - maybe both - to the wall so that it rests on the top of the backsplash or counter top. That way if the wall or the counter top is flexing or moving some, each moves relatively independently of the other but they'd be close enough together to not leave a gap for stuff to fall in.
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Posts: 451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by texman

BTW-that mosquito spray tip should be somewhere in the tips and tricks if it isnt already.  That stuff is dangerous around plastic.

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Posts: 446 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 9:24am
i think the screws are just fastening to the panel there.  I will try a stud finder to see if there is anything more sturdy there.  Has to be some studs there i would think.  And it is possible that something heavy could have been there, would not take that much weight if the screws are only in the panel. Ouch
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Not having a full picture and not knowing the construction, I would wonder if excess weight was placed on the counter top. Another thought is that the counter top looks straight and the wall looks like it has a little curve to it. The screws may have pulled the wall to the sink at one time, but stress of movement may have caused them to loosen. It may need some additional screws and/or anchors to provide more support to the screws than the wall alone can provide. Per Mike Carter's suggestion, Liquid Nails would help keep it together also.

Is there anything behind the wall panel into which the screws are fastened (wood or metal)? If it is just the panel, then some sort of anchor would definitely be helpful. I used some of these: Crown Bolt #6-32x1" Hollow Wall Anchors to fix the panel under the refrigerator that kept falling off. I used some moly bolts for a shelf, but they were a little too long and I wound up putting a hole in the side that I plugged. It reminds me that I can't go over 1" for a fastener.
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that is my concern, why did this happen?  The only incident back there was a can of mosquito spray that melted the hot water knob on the rear sink, it is still there and functional.  no other visible signs anywhere else.  I really think the counter was probably a bit short from mfg. and they "made it fit"  Then as the temp stresses occur it has pulled loose. I am skeptical that using bigger screws will hold in the long run.  I am thinking a thin piece of HDPE for the gap, bigger screws and caulk is my solution.  I think i can get some of the conical auger type anchors in the old holes maybe, the ones for the sheetrock anchors is what i am referring to. 

BTW-that mosquito spray tip should be somewhere in the tips and tricks if it isnt already.  That stuff is dangerous around plastic.
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It appears to me as though the counter top has pulled away from the wall. the caulking that is on the wall, and "used" to be touching the countertop would make me wonder why. 
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I would pull the screws - spread the gap and apply Liquid Nails to the space, apply pressure, replace screws with slightly longer ones, do not over torque and let the glue set. Liquid Nails is NOT a caulk.
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it is all the way across the starboard side.  Glue and screw and caulk is all i can come up with.  It isn't a big deal, just ugly and could get a bit of splash from the sink .
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Posts: 1407 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 12:01pm
You might consider using some caulk on the mating surfaces to act as a glue in addition to the screw.
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Posts: 6128 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 10:21am
Is it like that all the way across?

I would try new screws in a spot a little to the left or right. It is possible the screw went in, pulled the panel tight, but was then over torqued and stripped.

If moving the screw(s) and torquing by hand works to pull the wall panel up to the sink mold, then I would run a bead of caulk all the way around.
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