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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Topic: Towing with Full Water Tank Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 5:32pm |
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Bottom line, weigh it. Public scales don't lie. If you already have weighed without filling the fresh water tank no problem. You don't need to weigh it again. Just add 250 lbs to the total trailer weight for the 30 gal tank. You can also recalculate your tonque weight without going back to the scale. The full tank changes tongue weight according to the formula: 250 lbs X distance from trailer axle to tank / distance from trailer axle to hitch. Add if the tank is in front of the axle, subtract if behind. Same formula applies for full (or partially full) 30 gal grey and black tanks (and for any other loads in lbs you want to add in the trailer).
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 6:11pm |
What's lighter? Vodka, Bourbon or Gin? Just wondering while sipping my one glass of wine. Heheh
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2014 RPod 178 => MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6 Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks! |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 7:25pm |
And the winner is....wait for it...
Gin. But if you filled your fwt with Tanqueray rather than water (now there’s a thought, no fear or biological contamination- even if contamination were possible you would have no fear, being comatose) you would save all of 15 lbs. http://www.aviationexpeditions.com/Drinks/AlcoholDensityChart |
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 7:36pm |
Perfect! Add a half gallon of olives and Triple Sec and a decal on the back - "Shaken, Not Stirred" Bet you would get more tours than normal! Carry on... EDIT: So sorry. Dumb suggestion. Don't put olives in tank. Add after. Sorry. |
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2014 RPod 178 => MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6 Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks! |
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podwerkz
Senior Member Joined: 11 Mar 2019 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 966 |
Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 7:37pm |
Fill the fresh tank with water, and then put all your canned food, cases of drinking water, provisions, etc up front, which will offset that imbalance.
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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3252 |
Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 8:07pm |
Offgrid helped me with this about 3 years ago as I also tow a 177 and at that time, with a Ford Explorer. Tongue weight is critical as has been discussed. I was at the nominal range 240 lbs on my hitch, the 177 weighs in at 2440 empty and about 2700 with a full tank of water (and HW tank) putting me on the edge of safety. By proper loading we were able to increase tongue weight to the point that there were no problems towing even with a full tank of water using only a Curt anti-sway bar. So here we are, 9 plus years later, 36,000 miles on 2 sets of tires, a bit older, grayer, and hopefully a bit more humble and wiser.
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 8:52pm |
If you are moving stuff out of the trailer to the TV to lighten the load, be sure not to exceed the GCVWR or Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating. It's the absolute limit for your TV and contents and the full weight of trailer. It is different from the GVWR, in that GVWR doesn't add in the trailer weight. Unfortunately, a lot of manufacturers don't make it easy to find, and some don't publish it at all.
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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geewizard
Senior Member Joined: 16 Apr 2017 Location: Spokane Online Status: Offline Posts: 347 |
Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 8:52am |
What did Offgrid say that helped you? I'd like to know since I tow a 177.
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2021 Winnebago Micro Minnie 1708FB
2017 R-Pod 177 (Blue) HRE SOLD 2004 Outfitter Apex 8 camper 2014 Toyota Tundra DC |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 9:31am |
Just that the fwt is behind the axle in that model, as is the water heater, so if you're already close to your 10% tongue weight with the tank empty, as Jato was, then when you add 250 lbs of water in the tank and fill the water heater (50 lbs) you will be under 10%. Both the total weight will go up and the tongue weight will go down (because its a teeter tooter) at the same time. That makes the 177 more sway prone than some other models.
Easy fix, move some cargo forward (or have dual batteries or propane cylinders) should take care of the problem. Best thing, load up, tank up (if you plan on boondocking) and weigh the trailer and tongue, then you'll know.
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3252 |
Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 2:26pm |
Geewizard, and you thought Offgrid had a bad memory? NOT !
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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