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    Posted: 18 Jun 2013 at 7:41pm
My brake on the drivers side is  hanging up (WOULD NO RETRACT) so a bunch of money and a few trips to the repair shop they figure its the axle. I tried everything and they did too, even put new complete brake kit backing plate and all. Still will not release. I talked today to an axle specialist and i can`t repeat his comments about Lippert axles and the torsion axle. but it looks like if I want to have functioning brakes I may have to replace my axle. I can`t get any response from FR or Lippert and local r pod dealer was never heard of that before. It`s amazing that I have a brake problem that no other r pod has experienced. anyhow the fix 800-1000 bucks and a 300 mile trip. To think had this thing for a month and haven`t been camping yet. o`well happy camping.
                                  
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Did they explain how it could be the axle?  Sounds like the "specialists" was trying to sell something.
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Originally posted by Keith-N-Dar

Did they explain how it could be the axle?

My thoughts exactly. The axle just holds everything, it's pretty much passive. Could you have a bent spindle? When did the problem start?
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Originally posted by Keith-N-Dar

Did they explain how it could be the axle?  Sounds like the "specialists" was trying to sell something.

They shop that has been trying to fix the problem seem to think it could possibly be the flanges the backing  plate is bolted to. If I back the brakes all the way off all is good except I don't have brakes
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Originally posted by bhamster

Originally posted by Keith-N-Dar

Did they explain how it could be the axle?

My thoughts exactly. The axle just holds everything, it's pretty much passive. Could you have a bent spindle? When did the problem start?

           The brakes were backed all the way off when we bought it from PO  and when I replaced the wheel bearings and adjusted the brakes to where they should be when it started. Don't thing the axle guy is trying to sell me a bill of goods just told me facts today
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Posts: 12 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2013 at 8:34am
I had the same problem, the dealer replaced the self adjusting brakes with standard Dexter brakes.  The original brakes did not brake equally, they dragged etc.  I check the temperature each wheel and compare, and they are close to being the same, no more problems. 
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Originally posted by Craneman

Originally posted by Keith-N-Dar

Did they explain how it could be the axle?  Sounds like the "specialists" was trying to sell something.

They shop that has been trying to fix the problem seem to think it could possibly be the flanges the backing  plate is bolted to. If I back the brakes all the way off all is good except I don't have brakes

Is is possible that the flange was not welded square to the axle? If so that should be fixable for less money than a new axle. 
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Posts: 387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2013 at 10:31am
Originally posted by Seanl

Originally posted by Craneman

Originally posted by Keith-N-Dar

Did they explain how it could be the axle?  Sounds like the "specialists" was trying to sell something.

They shop that has been trying to fix the problem seem to think it could possibly be the flanges the backing  plate is bolted to. If I back the brakes all the way off all is good except I don't have brakes

Is is possible that the flange was not welded square to the axle? If so that should be fixable for less money than a new axle. 

Yes that is what they are thinking, I will make some accurate measurements when I get it home. Can't keep paying people to guess and be parts changers. I can do that a lot cheaper. These guys have done work for me before and and have a a + rating  just one of those things.
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Posts: 165 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2013 at 10:42am
If the backing plate is not square and it's always been like that (not damaged or bent) then I think you have a good case for Lippert to fix it since the axle was defective.
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Posts: 171 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2013 at 1:24pm
Just a wild suggestion FWIW. Are you sure there is not one speck of grease on the brake shoes. This will cause the brakes to grab.
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