Trouble shoot my Fantastic Fan

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   Last week when I hooked up to shore power at the campground I started popping circuit breakers. Both in my trailer and at the post for the campground. After much frustrating trial and error, it seems to be related to my fan. As long as I leave it turned off and the circuit breaker related to it, everything else works OK. Including AC. It just seems to be the one circuit and/or the fan itself. I'm no electrician but my guess is that there are some very simple tests that I can do to at least confirm where and what the problem is. 

Any thoughts?

Chuck

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Chuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Waukesha WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Topic: Trouble shoot my Fantastic Fan Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 9:06am
	Last week when I hooked up to shore power at the campground I started popping circuit breakers. Both in my trailer and at the post for the campground. After much frustrating trial and error, it seems to be related to my fan. As long as I leave it turned off and the circuit breaker related to it, everything else works OK. Including AC. It just seems to be the one circuit and/or the fan itself. I'm no electrician but my guess is that there are some very simple tests that I can do to at least confirm where and what the problem is. Any thoughts? Chuck
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furpod Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 12:42pm
	Your fantastic fan is 12v. They all are. It doesn't do anything or have any effect on the 120v side. What circuit breakers were tripping, and what circuit breaker did you turn off thinking it was for the FF?

Chuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Waukesha WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 1:16pm
	I understand that. That is what is making it so confusing. The two breakers that were tripping when I turned on the breaker at the park was the 30amp and the next to the last 15amp along with the breaker at the post. Now, even though the 15amp breaker is on, there is nothing at the fan. I am not currently connected to shore power. Just 12v.
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furpod Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 1:47pm
	What is the status of the Fuses? there is one in the fuse panel and one on the FF. The FF also has a "open lid" switch that can stick..

Chuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Waukesha WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 1:50pm
	The fuse in the panel is fine. Where would I find the one in the FF?
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Leo B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 13 Jan 2012 Location: Lyndonville, VT Online Status: Offline Posts: 4512	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 2:00pm
	The fuse in the fantastic fan is under a little round cap with a groove through it. the fuse is under the round cap. It is spring loaded and you have to push in an turn like a quarter turn. It can be a real pain to get it closed again. the one in our 171 was one of the long barrel type fuse.
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Chuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Waukesha WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 2:51pm
	Yep. Long barrel type. It's OK. What else can I test?
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CharlieM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 3:41pm
	So let me get this straight. If you're connected to shore power with all breakers in the converter panel on except one 15A everything is OK? Then just turning the one 15A breaker on causes it to trip along with the 30A breaker and the external shore power post breaker? If you're not connected to shore power, just running on 12V with all circuit breakers on and fuses good you have no fan operation? In this situation other 12V appliances such as the water pump work as they should? Did the fan ever work, on 12V or shore power? There should be no circuit breaker associated with the fan unless the converter itself is causing the problem. It has a 15A breaker protecting it. However, if this is the case, it should have nothing to do with whether the fan is on or off. Can you run an shore power with all breakers on and the fan off?
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Chuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Waukesha WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 3:43pm
	Charlie, unfortunately you understand it perfectly! The fan has always worked until now on both. It's starting to make my head (and I fear my pocket book) hurt.
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CharlieM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797	Posted: 07 Jul 2015 at 4:08pm
	Let's try this: With the fan off and all other breakers off you should be able to connect to shore power and turn on the campground post breaker. Nothing will work except some 12V lights and the pump. Then turn on the 30A breaker in the converter panel . Nothing should change. Then try turning on the 20A breaker. This is the A/C breaker and the A/C should work. If it does leave the breaker on. If all OK so far, try turning each 15A breaker by itself and then back off. If I'm right each breaker should come on without issue except the one you associate with the fan. It should cause breakers to trip. Report back.
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