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    Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 2:31pm
Yes, it is amazing what a difference a well-set-up WDH can make, especially if it also has sway control, whether integrated or add-on.
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We recently got a reminder of why we use a WDH. 

We were evacuated from our home when one of the big fires started in California. We had everything packed, and part of our belongings we wanted to take with us was our RP-179. Seeing that we were getting underway at 3AM, and we have an F-150, which can pull the 179 with no control issues whatever, I decided I would skip the WDH setup.

As we proceeded down the highway, I noticed two things. 

First, the headlights were just a bit too high. Just high enough that the low beams would shine right into the windshield of anyone coming the other way. Not a good thing.

The second thing I noticed was that all the bumps and dips were exaggerated. 

After we got to our first stop (what we affectionately referred to as "Chateau de CVS"), we got a few hours of rest, and before we left, I hooked up the WDH bars. The rest of our escape to safety was uneventful.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sailor Pod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Sep 2020 at 7:28pm
We use a husky centerline WD hitch and sway bars on our R-Pod 190.  Works great.  600lbs.  We tow with our diesel jeep grand cherokee, which also tows the pod very well.  We just put on 5000 miles going to Seattle and back.  Trip was outstanding.
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I use a fastway e2 600/6000 square bar, no complaints so far.
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Originally posted by alohapad

Can see that everybody has a favorite, and I'm HOPING I made the right choice for my needs, but I picked the Anderson 3324 Sway WDH.  It's kinda pricey ($499), but it's under 60lbs, and looks to be the bee's knees. My Jeep is rated 350/3500, and the 178 is at about 270 on the hitch, so my math says I snuck in just below. No lift kit, running 33's, so hoping the height is gonna be OK too.

Is that 270 tongue weight an actual measured value for a loaded trailer? Seems very low.. FR specs say an unloaded dry 178 is 295 on the hitch and 2893 total. That's with no battery, water in the water heater, or any of the tanks...If it really is that low then you'll also want your total trailer weight not to exceed 2700 lbs to avoid sway. 

If you are Ok you will be very close, so check all your actual loaded weights against your Jeep specs (trailer, tongue, combined gross vehicle weight, and axle weights). When you run through the scales disconnect or de-tension the weight distribution hitch, it will throw off your weight measurements. 

Here's a nice calculator to load all your data into and see where you are. . 

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Originally posted by alohapad

Can see that everybody has a favorite, and I'm HOPING I made the right choice for my needs, but I picked the Anderson 3324 Sway WDH.  It's kinda pricey ($499), but it's under 60lbs, and looks to be the bee's knees. My Jeep is rated 350/3500, and the 178 is at about 270 on the hitch, so my math says I snuck in just below. No lift kit, running 33's, so hoping the height is gonna be OK too.
It will quickly become apparent that 350/3500 is inadequate. I towed with a 2016 Ford Escape and while it worked for a time, there were lots of those times I was wanting to have something with more capacity. We had an accident when we hit ice along with a strong crosswind. The damage to the Escape meant we needed something else to continue our trip and get home (the RPod was damaged also, but I was able to patch it up enough to get home, after which it went to the factory for repair). We ended up getting a 2020 Nissan Frontier LE Crew Cab 4x4 which has been serving us well with its 6,100 lb tow rating.

I say this to say that you will want to be careful with that Jeep. Its high center of gravity and short wheelbase (relatively so) means that any issue with trailer sway could get out of control faster than you can imagine. If you do not already have a lot of experience towing, I would recommend that in addition to the Andersen hitch, you look into one of the electronic sway control devices such as the Hayes Sway-Master, the Tuson Sway Control, or Lippert Sway Command. It will be able to react to conditions faster than you can and help prevent a potential sway situation from getting out of hand. I would recommend one of these, especially if someone has a vehicle that he/she thinks does not need a WD/sway control hitch.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote alohapad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 3:06pm
Can see that everybody has a favorite, and I'm HOPING I made the right choice for my needs, but I picked the Anderson 3324 Sway WDH.  It's kinda pricey ($499), but it's under 60lbs, and looks to be the bee's knees. My Jeep is rated 350/3500, and the 178 is at about 270 on the hitch, so my math says I snuck in just below. No lift kit, running 33's, so hoping the height is gonna be OK too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TheBum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Mar 2020 at 12:01pm
We use the round bar version of the E2 with our 179 and Durango. The Durango has load leveling shocks on the back, but the ride is much smoother and more controlled with the WDH. The WDH reduces bounce at the coupler as well as providing better traction for steering.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CharlieM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2020 at 1:01pm
One additional point. There is a difference between "need WDH" and want WDH". Needing a WDH for safety reasons is a much debated subject involving weight of TT, weight of TV, location of hitch, wheelbases and trailer loading. This may explain the E-trailer response, particularly since the advertised weight of Rpods is grossly understated. However, you definitely will want the WDH. A properly installed and adjusted WDH will greatly improve the ride and feel of the rig.  In addition to returning weight to the front axle it almost eliminates porpoising. Bounce up and down? Yes; that's the road and you can't do much about that. Feel like you're on a rocking horse? Not with the WDH. Great for relieving stress and calming your co-pilot. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wirat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2020 at 11:46am
Originally posted by mjlrpod

I use the E2 system also. I have the 600/6000 square friction bars. I don't understand why anyone would say using wdh is a waste of anything.  Making sure your vehicle is somewhat level, and each wheel, front and back, is firmly planted against the road to assure the best possible control is not a waste. I also feel that having at least some sway control, is much better than no sway control. It's like stating that you should never ever wear a seat belt, because you'll probably not get into an accident today. Unless you buy a wdh that is guaranteed easy to install while your camper sways violently out of control as you drive down the highway, I would say it's not a waste. 

Yeah and it seems from conversations here that WDHs DO make a big difference even on a lighter trailer, so I don't know why the Etrailer guy was so adamant about not needing one under 7k. He must not have had his coffee yet...
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