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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2587 |
Topic: Sway bar in the rain Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 5:29pm |
I just took a quick gander at the Fastway E2 users manual and there is nothing in the Warnings or Cautions that advised against using it normally in inclement weather. No mention of snow, ice, or sleet, ...or the US Postal Service. On the other hand, out west most states require chains on the TV and the trailer when chain controls are up, i.e. 17 snowflakes were seen within 100 yards. I can't speak for others, but there isn't a snowball's chance in hell I'm going to go through all the trouble to put chains on my truck and trailer because of chain controls. Better to hop into the trailer, turn on the heater and have another shot of vegetable juice.
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 6:22am |
OK, what I get from all this is if you have friction bars (I have the Reese), it's perhaps best to loosen tension under wet conditions.
In any event in the mountains I drive assuming I have no brakes and if it's raining that the road is covered in marbles. I also get up real early so I'm out on the freeway before traffic picks up so I'm not helping create a hazard for myself and the locals some of who always seem to have a desperate need to pass on a blind curve in the fog.
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3223 |
Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 8:17pm |
Well, thanks for all the discussion on this. I have used the friction sway control bar in snow, rain, and sleet. Even did that today coming home from the U.P. of Michigan. In fact, when we drove our brand new 177 home in March 2011, the dealer installed the Curt, friction sway control bar on our hitch and told us to always use it EXCEPT when backing up, then loosen it or take it off. When we drove it home that day we were in the midst of a whale of a U.P. snowstorm, probably a good 8" of new snow on the road with a lot of wind, at the time we towed it with our 2008 Explorer, no problems encountered. Maybe we have just been fortunate not to have had any issues towing with our friction sway control bar on during snow, sleet, and rain towing with any of the following vehicles, '08 and '13 Explorers and '94 and '11 F-150's. Guess I will have to re-visit this and loosen the tension during these events. As StephenH wisely stated above, which we normally do, if road conditions are not optimal, SLOW DOWN. This I do, I don't care if the person behind me doesn't like me creeping along, go ahead and pass, I am concerned about getting my bride and myself home safely in one piece w/o incident.
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 3:40pm |
I agree with CharlieM, years ago I had a WDH, like David don't recall a warning. The warning was in install instructions with a friction sway.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 10:50am |
A bit more reading and thinking and I conclude the problem is limited to the friction devices. These devices cannot withstand the severe compression forces generated if the trailer breaks free and swings sideways. Equal-i-zer, E2, Andersen, Hensley? No sweat; camp on.
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2629 |
Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 9:50am |
Secondly.... Towing your TT in snow or ice might be a questionable activity to begin with...
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 9:43am |
Sorry Guys but I'm not buying it yet. If left free to wander the trailer can exert all kinds of steering forces on the TV. With the sway system connected the TT has to act through the lever arm created by the front and rear wheels of the TV. The TV wheels usually have more weight on them and better slip resistant tires so they should hold better than the TT tires. Has anyone found another source other than Reese? If this is true any of us with Equal-i-zer, E2, Hensley or Andersen hitches are in trouble. BTW, the reason friction sway controllers should be disconnected when backing is they will bend or break under the sharp angles encountered while backing. The friction device cannot withstand large compression forces and it crumples.
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 9:39am |
Though it has been a while since I read the stuff, I recall nothing in the paperwork for my E2 600/6000 regarding disconnecting during rain/snow/gravel. I've towed lots on gravel and rain and lived to tell of it. It would be interesting if those who own the various brands & types would send an email to the manufacturers of their equipment and see if they care to comment on the situation. |
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StephenH
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Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 8:49am |
This may apply for a friction sway control bar, but I likewise question its validity for all situations. For example, the Equal-i-zer hitch I used to have would not have the ability to loosen the bars without affecting the WD which in turn would have made the front (steering) end of the TV lighter and would have made control more difficult. The Hensley hitch I have now also does not have the ability to lessen sway control since the way it is built, the TV must initiate turning. I think situational awareness and slowing down when conditions make traction questionable is the best way to address this.
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StephenH
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 7:45am |
Makes total sense mcarter. I can visualize hydroplaning the trailer wheels which in turn breaks the TV wheels lose via torque transmitted forward by the antisway system. Thanks again for making that clear.
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