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    Posted: 26 Mar 2019 at 6:08pm
I have been eagerly awaiting the 195, we love the walk around bed, the bigger fridge and the dry bath, but am feeling a bit disappointed. I have also looking at the Gulf Breeze Vista, which is looking lighter, has the one piece fiberglass roof, has a regular couch without the ottomans, and when you are sitting on the couch you are looking out a kitchen window instead of at a bathroom door. I am going to have take a good look at both when the 195 arrives.
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Posts: 6285 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 2019 at 6:37pm
I just saw this on the Forest River's RP-195 page:

Specifications

Hitch Weight: 340 lb.
GVWR: TBD
UVW 3350 lb.
CCC 1390 lb.
Exterior Length: 22' 2"
Exterior Height: 9' 8"
Exterior Width: 96"
Fresh Water: 36 gal.
Gray Water: 30 gal.
Black Water: 30 gal.
Awning Size: Opt. R-dome
There still are no exterior pictures available on the web site.
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Posts: 1214 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 2019 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by backin15

I have been eagerly awaiting the 195, we love the walk around bed, the bigger fridge and the dry bath, but am feeling a bit disappointed. I have also looking at the Gulf Breeze Vista, which is looking lighter, has the one piece fiberglass roof, has a regular couch without the ottomans, and when you are sitting on the couch you are looking out a kitchen window instead of at a bathroom door. I am going to have take a good look at both when the 195 arrives.
   Having lived in Florida on the Gulf of Mexico " Gulf Breeze" sounds good but I think maybe you meant Gulf Stream Vista. Would like to add the Vista is a nice camper but it does not have a torsion axle like the r-pods. 
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Posts: 5290 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 2019 at 7:21pm
GVWR should be (I think) UVW + CCC = 3350+1390=4740. Might be off 20 lbs for the propane. 

So with those specs it appears to have an axle rating of 4400 lbs (4740-340). That's the same as the Nobo's have.
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That's what I am thinking. Not having pictures to confirm, I think the mounting points for the axle have definitely been moved outward toward the wheels, making for a stronger axle.
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Posts: 2627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 2019 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by StephenH

That's what I am thinking. Not having pictures to confirm, I think the mounting points for the axle have definitely been moved outward toward the wheels, making for a stronger axle.
Probably because the frame itself is wider. That eliminates the large cantilevered portion of the axle, or at least reduces it.
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Posts: 1214 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 2019 at 2:11am
   Our V-Cross Vibe has a 4,400 lb axle and the Vibe is only about a inch wider than the first r-pods. But it too has the fenders on the outside not like the 195's with wheels having wheel wells.
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The axle situation on these trailers is all a bit of a puzzle. 

Last summer when I asked Lippert if the had a heavier axle they could sell me the first tech sales guy said he could sell me a 4400 lb axle (could have been 4200 lbs, can't recall exactly) but it was identical in all respects to the part number I gave him for the 3500lb one I already had. When I called back later another tech salesperson told be they weren't supposed to say that but could sell me a 5200 lb rated one which was a completely different axle. We also know that the 3000 lb ones on the light rPods are the same axle as the 3500 lb ones, just with a different rating. So there is certainly some spec derating going on here at times. 

Then there is the known issue with inboard mounting on the axle tube on the rPods which the Vibes and the new 195 will improve. 

So, is this new 195 axle really a different axle or is this specsmanship or is it mounting point differences? A big hint would be (assuming its from Lippert) is if its got 6 lugs or 5. Better would be to get the part number from it. That will tell us if its fundamentally the same axle as the 3500 lb ones we have on the current pods or from their next higher 5200 lb product line. 
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Posts: 302 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 2019 at 7:15am
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RicIOMnl3Ck
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Okay, I see on the video that the wheels are 6 lug. Whether that indicates a beefier axle or just an upgrade to 15" wheels is unclear.
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