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    Posted: 07 May 2019 at 9:42am
We tow with a Sport Trac V6 (5000 # towing capacity) and it has been great.  We have a weight distribution hitch plus an Anti sway bar.  This makes for a very comfortable tow.  Having said that, I must tell you that it is just the wife and myself traveling.

With the V6 you are not going to win any races up any moderate to steep inclines but I don"t mind that.  It is actually a nice break to follow a big slow truck up these grades and not have to worry about slowing other people up.

I would take seriously the suggestions contained here that you install a transmission cooler as well and brake control.

Have a GREAT time!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 2019 at 5:19pm
You should have no problem. 
I pulled my 18' Rpod with a 2015 Ford Escape with the 2.0 Eco boost engine. Tow capacity was 3500 lbs. Even before I installed a 7-pin socket, electric brake controller and a weight distribution hitch I had no problems at all. 
The electric brake is required in most states and it just makes sense to have it. You might be the best driver in the world but if another driver screws up and puts you in a position to stand down on the brakes you'll be darn happy you have it! 
The weight distribution will eliminate the possibility of "the tail wagging the dog". A very frightening experience I assure you!
If you chose to install the brake controller yourself consider the following: follow the manufactures in structions and install 2 30 amp fused relays. One for the controller and one to power the refrigerator in you trailer when towing. Otherwise your on board battery may go flat by the time you get to your destination. Same with using propane.
I'm rather fussy and took the time to route all wires up through the interior of the car. Placed the fuses on the radiator support crossmember near the battery. Then followed instructions and adjusted the brake bias untill the brakes locked up, then backed off a notch.
The weight distribution system was a bit more physical labor and I had a RV Dealer thighten the hitch ball to the recommended 250ft lbs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 10:48pm
Obviously you'll get yes and no answers so let me give you my opinion as someone who towed a 179 for nearly 3 yrs with a 2016 Santa Fe. Mine did have the tow pkg, and an aftermarket hitch and brake controller and it was a great tv for the 179. We since upgraded to a Chevy Colorado as I felt we were wrecking the interior of the Santa Fe with firewood and other outdoor items so then felt we could have more camper.

I will say that the Santa Fe is a great tv but would urge you to heed the advice here about the overall weights, I think you could reach the GVWR of the Rpod but don't exceed that of the overall gross combined. I would also hope you would add a transmission cooler if you don't already have one. I would also recommend the Andersen sway control hitch, it is the easiest to set up and it is awesome towing my 5052lb UVW camper.

If you cannot change the tv I would suggest you moderate the weight, if that means downsizing the Rpod then consider it, or reduce your gear.

 I loved my Santa Fe, just had the cash and wanted a truck. Make it work, it's worth it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 7:28pm
From everything I've read here and my own experience with a V6 FJ Cruiser with a 5000 lb towing capacity, you should be fine.  I've been from Florida to Cape Breton and the Outer Banks to beyond Rocky Mountain NP, not to mention the Smokies many, many times.  My FJ only has an idiot light for transmission fluid temperature so I added a ScanGuage to monitor it.  After watching the temp for a while I added an auxiliary cooler, which in my case was pretty much essential.

With the cargo/people capacity of your vehicle you could overload it without a lot of trouble but you should be fine if you watch it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 10:39am
We tow a 2018 190 with a 2004 Explorer Sport trac V6.  It does a great job.  However, I really improved the ride and stability of the ride by installing a weight distribution hitch along with my anti-sway.....As with any V6, you aren't going to be the first one to the mountain top, but it is more than sufficient and will give you a comfortable tow.  I also like the extended towing mirrors in order to see what is behind me and not just what is in the adjacent lane.

As with all towing, the gas mileage really sucks and to be really safe, don't hurry down those mountain grades either.  Gear down if you have to, but it only takes a moment longer to get to the bottom.  ENJOY THE TRIP!!!!

Having said all that, I must say that it is just the wife and I and we try not to haul a lot of stuff that we can buy along the way.   Grocery shopping is a good way to take a break.LOL

Take Care and have a great time in your POD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 10:06am
Megan_hslib, do you know what the cargo capability of your Santa Fe is (irrespective of the towing limit)?

For example, if the cargo capability is 900 lbs (I don't know what it is for the Santa Fe, so that is a pure guess), then you could carry two people (estimate 300 lbs), plus the tongue weight for an average RP-179 (estimate 400 lbs), and 200 lbs of "other stuff". You would be surprised how easy it is to have 200 lbs of other stuff.

More often than not, it's the cargo capability of the tow vehicle that is the limit before the tow rating.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 9:50am
We towed our 179 for two years with a 2012 Highlander SE (3.5L V6, 5000 lb tow rating) with no issues. It handled mountains better than I though it would, only starting to struggle once the grades got above 9%. Our Highlander had the factory tow prep package.

We have a 2019 Durango GT Plus (3.6L V6) with tow package now and, thus far, it seems to pull better than the Highlander, as I would expect since it's a more strongly rated power train. We haven't had it on any steep grades yet, so the jury is still out. It's rated up to 6200 lbs towing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 7:57am
Weight is weight, whether people or cargo.  You are dealing with what are effectively absolute safety limits.  If you don't want to get a new TV, then take a TV and another car to distribute the weight and stay with in the capacity of your TV.  

As for where to weigh, google "public scales near me" and find some places close by.  Call them and arrange a good time to drop by with your loaded trailer [including all passengers or their equivalent weight] and you can see how you stand.  Good luck with your adventure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 7:47am
Originally posted by lostagain

If you are pushing the tow capacity of the TV, then you either have to cut back on cargo, including people, and/or the weight of trailer to stay within the TV capacity or get a TV with more capacity.

So leave the kids behind!  Got it. LOL.  Actually, since my husband and I are both on second marriages and our kids go to their other respective parents regularly, the vast majority of our usage of whatever we buy will just be the two of us. We'd probably only take the 4 girls once or twice a year.  At other times, if my mom or sister and husband wanted to come, they'd drive their own car.  

But I do need to load the car and go weigh it to get a better idea.  Where can I do this?  Truck stop? What is the cost?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 6:33am
I tow with a 5000 lb rated Highlander and its fine, but I don't have 6 people in it. I do have a heavy trailer though. Best way is to do the weight calculations and see. Here is a towing calculator you can use. 

For the trailer, do NOT use the emplty weight the manufacturer provides, its very misleading. leaving out the a/c unit. the microwave, the battery, the water in the water heater, etc.  Your trailer will weigh at least 350-400 lbs more than that before you put any water in the tanks or stuff in the trailer. Depending on which trailer a lot of that will be on the tongue.  If you want to boondock you can add another 300-350 or so lbs for water, an extra battery, and maybe an extra propane cylinder. My 179 laoded for boondocking weighs in at about 3800 lbs with 550 on the tongue. So that's about 1000 lbs above the "empty" weight and 260 lbs above the listed tongue weight.  

For the tow vehicle, add in the weights of all the ppl and gear, noting that a lot of the gear will be on the rear axle so will subtract from your tongue weight capacity. I put minimal gear in my Highlander. 


As others have said, you should also check to see what you don't have that comes with the tow package and see if you want to add any aftermarket items that you're missing.  And yes, you will most likely want a weight distribution hitch, but that doesn't let you exceed your tow vechile tongue weight rating. 
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