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    Posted: 17 May 2019 at 3:14pm
Out in the middle of the desert, here in nowhere, we carry our extra water in canvas bags hanging off the front of the truck.  Big smile  Stays nice and cool if you're moving.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 12:03pm
We do carry a few bottles plus some cans of sparkling flavored (unsweetened) water. For coffee and tea, the water comes from the tank. We also fill reusable stainless steel bottles for drinking. For the most part, we limit showers and have had access to places to both dump the gray and black tanks as needed and to refill the fresh tank as needed. We learned to take very quick, low water use showers on our first trip and to use campground showers if we are at a place without hook-ups (such as Vermont state parks). I carried a water container (Hydroller) when we were dry camping in freezing weather. It is still water carried in a container that is of similar material to the fresh water tank so I treat it the same way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 8:50am
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Space and weight.
Carrying extra water in a container or bottles takes up both. I have a tank that can suffice for use if properly sanitized and potable water is used to fill it. 

I see a possible scenario where all of your potable water is only in the fresh tank. Showers are taken, toilet is flushed many times, water is used for cooking and cleaning, outdoor showers, etc, and one HOT day, the pump runs dry, the fresh water tank is emptied, and you now have ZERO drinkable water!

To prepare for this, I suspect you carry a few bottles of separate drinking water, having been in the military.

BTW thanks for your service!

Yeah carrying 5 gallons of potable water in a seperate jug means you can deduct that weight from your fresh tank when traveling, by filling it less. In fact, I only travel down the road with my fresh tank showing 1/3 or less...weight is an issue with these. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 8:13am
These Steramine Quaternary sanitizing tablets looks like a better sanitizer than using bleach and is inexpensive. It's use extensively in the restaurant industry.

"STERAMINE 1-G Sanitizing Tablets - 150 Tabs per bottle Makes 150 gallons of cleaning solution - Used by Restaurants & Bars Worldwide! Commercial strength but also makes a great economical household sanitizer! One bottle makes 150 gallons of Quaternary solution! Just 1 tablet per gallon of water! Odor Free, Non corrosive, does not irritate the skin ! May also be applied with a clean cloth or sponge. Works great in Kitchens & Bathrooms! Can be sprayed on Food processing equipment, sinks, countertops, cabinets, refrigerators, stovetops, cutting boards, and all other non-porous articles and surfaces."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 4:52pm
Water weighs what water weighs, and you're not going to use any more water by carrying some of it in a separate container. If you only need 25 gallons total for your trip and you want 5 gallons of that in a container you can just put 20 gallons in your tank rather than 25. If I'm  boodocking for a week or so I take 35 gallons, 5 in a couple containers, and that gives me an extra day, As for storage, I've never come close to using up all the storage space in my 179. 

A lot of this comes from personal experiences. I spent 35 years doing lots of international travel, much to places where people would think you're crazy if you suggested drinking or brushing your teeth using the water from the tap. So, I just learned to assume its all contaminated and never drink from taps, either at home, in hotel rooms, or in my RV's. For me, its not at all a hardship or even an inconvenience, its second nature. 

None of us are ever going to convince the others that our way is better. This is a matter of choice based on experience, and what each individual feels is most convenient and sensible for their needs. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 10:27am
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That's a LOT of  work compared to just carrying around a few gallons of actual drinking water. I mean, why is it SO important that your drinking water comes from your pump operated faucet as compared to a gravity dispenser on the counter or floor?

Space and weight.
Carrying extra water in a container or bottles takes up both. I have a tank that can suffice for use if properly sanitized and potable water is used to fill it. For extra safety, some Camco Drinking Water Freshener (essentially bleach) can be used to ensure safety.
I spent 26 years in the Army. I have had to drink water from Water Buffaloes (wheeled tanks) and Lister Bags. Drinking water from them did not make me sick or kill me so I think I can safely drink water from the fresh water tank. Field Sanitation classes provided training in how to keep potable water safe so I feel confident in using my  RV's fresh water tank.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 8:18am
+1 to Podwerkz.  We try to keep the FW tank as clean as we can so we can use it for other domestic uses besides drinking.  If it's basically clean, then those uses pose relatively low risks for washing dishes, cooking [when heated to boiling], and bathing.  Besides, if you're boondocking taking along separate drinking water can extend your stay and it serves as ballast you can move around to help balance your tongue weight. 

It occurs to me that one of the reasons we are blessed with relatively good senses of taste and smell is that it give us a survival advantage.  If something tastes bad or smells bad, it's a warning to us that it's probably not very good for you.  When water tastes bad it's a warning to your body to stay clear of it, ergo the use of the terms "bitter water" and "sweet water."  One may make you sick while the other is less likely to introduce you to new little friends.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2019 at 10:44pm
Jeeze. 

I read thru that entire process of sanitizing the fresh tank. Holy Moly.

That's a LOT of  work compared to just carrying around a few gallons of actual drinking water. I mean, why is it SO important that your drinking water comes from your pump operated faucet as compared to a gravity dispenser on the counter or floor?

Using the so called 'fresh water' tank just for showers and toilet use means you are not having to sanitize water and the tanks to the utmost level of sterility just to flush it down the drain. I'm guessing here, but I bet 90% of that 30 gallons ends up in the toilet, the shower, washing dishes, maybe hosing off muddy shoes, or washing the dog. 

In my opinion (and I've been doing this for more than 25 years) ANY water that goes into ANY RV fresh water tank is, from then on, NON-POTABLE. Period.

It's for toilets, showers, and washing dishes.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2019 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by Happy Tripping


Originally posted by lostagain

Happy, thank you for making my point.  We are at an impasse. 

Agreed. 
Thinking about this, the desert southwest is probably the most difficult area for any of us to be definite about.
For newbies, just for perspective on changing drinking water in tanks - 
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That first link is a good write up, thanks for sharing.

I didn’t know about turning the fresh water supply on and off in between. Not sure what it does but I’ll do it. I’m going to try the baking soda rinse too. I generally only use water for cooking and brushing teeth but like it to be clean.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2019 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by lostagain

Happy, thank you for making my point.  We are at an impasse. 

Agreed. 

Thinking about this, the desert southwest is probably the most difficult area for any of us to be definite about.

For newbies, just for perspective on changing drinking water in tanks - 


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