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    Posted: 11 May 2019 at 6:41pm
I like the overnight bleach sanitizing followed by a baking soda water rinse to get rid of the antifreeze residual taste and odor.
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Thanks for mentioning the baking soda rinse in this thread Stephen. I’ll try it, last time I sanitized and rinsed flushed the system twice, there was still a harsh bleach smell in the water. I have not sanitized since and just bring a jug for brushing teeth, coffee, etc..
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I use a product called "spring fresh" from camco. It costs 25 bucks at my dealer, and will treat 100 gallons of water. So if you measure precisely, you get three times for about 10 bucks each year. I dont know what the main ingredient is, but it has almost no smell whatsoever, and since I never drink the water from the tank, I'm not sure about taste. I do the exact same clean out as everyone, just instead of bleach, I use this stuff. I don't like the idea of putting bleach into plastic or rubber seals. I might unknowingly be still using it, but atleast it's unknowingly. (please don't tell me you googled the ingredients and it's bleach, heh) 
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If the ingredients are not listed on the bottle, I sure would be careful with that stuff if you drink the tank water.  You have no idea what you are ingesting.  For all the faults of chlorine bleach at least it's a known and proven water purifier and is pretty easily rinsed from the system, if you take the time to do it right.  And it costs about 10¢ per sanitization procedure.  As for drinking tank water, there have been many discussions about that in this board with some strong feelings expressed in both directions.     
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Posts: 5290 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2019 at 10:12am
Originally posted by mjlrpod

(please don't tell me you googled the ingredients and it's bleach, heh) 

According to the Q&A on Amazon the manufacturer says:

Ethyl alcohol, Sorbitan Monostearate Ethoxylate 

I like the ethyl alcohol part but why not just use vodka? LOL

The other ingredient doesn't sound quite so great, its apparently some kind of emulsifier, maybe to clean out any grease or sludge that's in there:

Sorbitan monostearate can harm the integumentary system as it can cause irritation in the skin. In addition, sorbitan monostearate is bad for the digestive system. High levels of the substance can cause liver enlargement.

No bleach though!
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I like the ethyl alcohol part but why not just use vodka? LOL 
What's a gallon of vodka run these days?
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Maybe about $30 for 80 proof cheapo stuff. 

here's the MSDS for Spring Fresh


its only about 4% ethyl alcohol so 80 proof vodka contains 10X the alcohol. You'd only need less than a pint of vodka to be the equivalent, so you could drink the other 7 pints after which you wouldn't be worried about what the water in your tank tastes like LOL
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Why not use Everclear?  You can buy pure ethanol for about $65 a gallon.  At a 4% dilution, you could do a lot of sanitizing, but I'd sure want to check with a water purification person to see if a 4% will do anything other than making it a nice party for the germs.  
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Originally posted by offgrid

Maybe about $30 for 80 proof cheapo stuff. 

here's the MSDS for Spring Fresh


its only about 4% ethyl alcohol so 80 proof vodka contains 10X the alcohol. You'd only need less than a pint of vodka to be the equivalent, so you could drink the other 7 pints after which you wouldn't be worried about what the water in your tank tastes like LOL

I looked up the SDS on Clorox and it's quite similar to the one you listed. 
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Originally posted by mjlrpod

 
I looked up the SDS on Clorox and it's quite similar to the one you listed. 

Not sure what you mean by similar?

Bleach is sodium hypochlorite, the Camco stuff's active ingredient is alcohol. Totally different chemically. Beach is considered hazmat, Camco's product is not. The bleach is more dangerous if you get it in your eyes and is highly toxic to aquatic life. Its a very well proven sanitizing agent though (maybe because its toxic to aquatic life?). 

But lots of stuff will have very similar reading health precautions on the MSDS:  avoid eye and skin contact, don't drink it, don't pour it in lakes or streams.Mostly common sense type stuff. 

For myself, I live next to a wetland area so I don't like to dump out any chemicals. Amphibians in particular are super sensitive, and I like to hear my frogs at night. So, for myself I just rinse my tank with plain water and don't drink out of it. 
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