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lostagain
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Topic: Sanitising Water system Posted: 14 May 2019 at 8:23am |
Happy, thank you for making my point. We are at an impasse.
Those who believe in the safety of drinking tank water will continue until they have a reason to change their minds. Those who avoid drinking tank water are unlikely to start, and certainly not based upon the information you provided about mid-west water.
By the way, if you Google contamination of food and water by plastic containers, such as polyethylene, you may not be as confident about plastic taste. But what the heck, even those us who are drinking water from other sources, usually store it in some kind of plastic container. As Country Joe and the Fish sang in the Vietnam Rag: "We're all gonna die!"
As for my profession, you'd be amazed at all the stuff we have to learn outside of law books. In the defense of doctors I had to learn more about medicine than I ever thought possible, especially childbirth. In defending elevator companies, I learned enough about elevators and escalators that I could actually do some repairs on them. In the defense of water agencies, I learned far more than you may realize about water safety. Don't think lawyers live in little boxes where we never look outside.
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GlueGuy
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Posted: 14 May 2019 at 10:41am |
You know, at home we get water from our well, which is stored in a pair of HDPE tanks. Water goes from the well to our tanks, then to our faucets, from which we drink. It's been that way for 23 years. We did have our water tested last year, and it tested clean as a whistle. It is slightly alkaline, but well within tolerances.
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texman
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Posted: 14 May 2019 at 11:05am |
Ditto to Glue Guy
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lostagain
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Posted: 14 May 2019 at 11:25am |
Our water is thoughtfully filtered by gold and silver mine tailings thanks to Lyon County Utility District. I'm sure we have no undesirable contaminants like cyanide and uranium. 99 and 44/100ths percent pure just like Marilyn Chambers promised with Ivory Snow.
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podwerkz
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Posted: 14 May 2019 at 3:21pm |
One park I camped in last week had warning tags on the potable water spigots advising pregnant and nursing women not to drink the water. High Nitrate levels.
High nitrate levels cannot be 'fixed' by filters and chlorination.
Makes me wonder what is in campground water that we don't know about....
I'll stick to drinking bottled water and tap water from trusted sources.
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offgrid
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Posted: 14 May 2019 at 5:01pm |
There really is no impasse here, its a personal choice. I look at it this way:
If you
are concerned about sanitizing properly or don't like to contaminate your local environs by dumping your sanitizing solution on the ground or are concerned about the quality of the tap water you might get travelling or want to increase your stored water supply beyond the measly 30 gallons or are not accustomed to drinking tap water anyway or all of the above (me),
then bring and drink bottled water. If none of the above are issues for you then feel free to drink water from the tank. No problems either way, and certainly no reason to argue about it.
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jato
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Posted: 14 May 2019 at 8:00pm |
In our case I was not too concerned about drinking water from the FW tank in our 177. In fact, we went 6 years without sanitizing our tank. It wasn't until we attended the 2016 ERU in Traverse City, MI when Furpod told me about "how to get smart" and sanitize my tank before something unfortunate happens. Well, it did make sense and the first thing I did after returning home was to sanitize. Now it is a one time per year event in the spring. We only use well water and are still on our original anode rod, now 8+ years old. Was I fortunate there was no sickness those first 6 years? Possibly My point is, there is a lot of great info presented on this forum. Thank you moderators for doing a bang up job in keeping this running smoothly!
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Posted: 14 May 2019 at 10:10pm |
'Quartzsite Crud' is a thing around that area every winter, and it's pretty common among the snowbirds...all kinds of bugs and ailments travel along with the RVers as they arrive and shake hands and share food, utensils, etc at potlucks and gatherings.
One thing I noticed in our 'tribe' of about 25 people.....only two people caught the 'crud' and I know for a fact that they drink and cook with the water they pump into their RV fresh tank from the available spigots.
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geewizard
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Posted: 15 May 2019 at 8:43am |
I don't understand the worry. My city water is chlorinated. It sits in my pipes, both copper and plastic, until used. Biofilm is probably growing in the plastic pipes as we speak.
I sanitize my RPod tank before each season with a half-cup of unscented bleach, fill the tank, and then drain it.
I fill my RPod tank before a trip with my city water and drink it. I don't get diarrhea and it tastes like home.
I think this is unnecessary worry along the lines of antivaxxers.
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lostagain
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Posted: 15 May 2019 at 9:37am |
When you put chlorinated city water into a closed FW tank, the chlorine doesn't immediately evaporate and remains in the water for a while, thus inhibiting bacterial growth. If you started out with a sanitized tank and added chlorinated city water the risk of bacterial growth is probably relatively low. And if it tastes good to you and there are no adverse consequences, then that's what really matters.
Where untreated water is put into the tank, the odds of excessive bacterial growth increase along with the risk of becoming ill. It is all a function of odds or probability. And each person has her/his own tolerance for risk not only from a point of view of choice, but from a physiological point of view as well. Some have a higher resistance to water born bacteria; some not so high.
And there is no guarantee that if you drink campground water, whether put into your FW tank or into separate water bottles that you are going to be free of risk. I recall reading some comparison tests of San Francisco municipal water compared to bottled water. The San Francisco municipal water was considerably more pure for both chemical contaminant and bacterial count measures. In many parts of the country, healthful potable water is getting harder and harder to come by.
The whole water issue comes down to personal preference. If you like the water from the FW tank, drink it. If that risk is unacceptable for whatever reason, don't drink it. Unlike not getting vaccinated for measles, you're not going to make other people sick by drinking tank water.
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