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    Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by Happy Tripping

Originally posted by Olddawgsrule

2 month mark coming up in days.. Lippert is sending someone out to inspect. Still being optimistic of a good outcome. 


This is a very complex and long post. Is it possible to summarize the main points? 

The reason I ask is that bending in normal use of apparently weak axles has happened to a lot of us, but I am not sure that this is going on here.

I wish I could answer you precisely and accurately as to what happen, yet I can not. I weigh my trailer before we leave. Sounds weird, yet we leave for months, not just days. Over time I have reduced what I carry so I don't have an issue. The most I have weighed in is 3200# with fresh full. I have reduced that. 

I carry about a 1/4 tank of fresh so we can use the toilet on the road as required. All places we stay either or close by places to fill, and dump before leaving. So none of the holdings are traveled with full. I pay close attention to this since we're out for long periods of time.

So over-weight is not the issue.

I travel the highways and byways of North America. I find most of the byways are better conditions then the highways. Just my experience. In fact the only issue on the road was on the highway and a blow-out on the TV tire. That was on a highway around a major city, which I do try to avoid for several reason (mainly traffic and road conditions). 

So what actually caused the issue? I Really don't know. I could speculate that it was miles of road condition and not realizing what what happening.. Not seeing the signs of wear.. Listening to advise of those that think they know what they are speaking of (including professionals).

If your tires are burning on the inside edge, you have an issue you should be paying attention to. If one of your tires looking strange (tilted) and it's not the bearing, you should be paying attention to it. Basically, if something looks wrong, no matter what 'I' or anyone else says, pay attention to it.

For the dollar we paid for these units it's quite a deal ($$).nYou just have to pay attention to what is happening. As much as I thought I was.. It was not enough.

With whatI know now, I would have done a lift on mine with a long section (5ft)of 2x2x3/16" steel and enforced the mount of the axle. That would have supported the weak point in the frame.
Also, had I known, I would have had outriggers added to support the wall of the trailer, especially near the axle mounts, fore and aft for about 2ft. Then none of this would have happened.

Can we expect FR of LCI to do these improvements? Not without cost of the unit. For the typical weekend warrior, none of this means much.. It would be years before they saw effect. Then cost may outweigh effect.

Not so for us that actually travel with our Travel Trailers. 

Reality, run though a weld shop and mod up the trailer for $500-$750 and you have one heck of a unit! Had I known... I would have..

I'm not sure where this is headed. Glad I have the extended warranty. Hoping Lippert or FR steps up and fixes the issue. I'll see what they do and do the balance afterwards. 

We really do like the 182g and hope to use it again fairly soon.   


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 1:43pm
Originally posted by Olddawgsrule

2 month mark coming up in days.. Lippert is sending someone out to inspect. Still being optimistic of a good outcome. 


This is a very complex and long post. Is it possible to summarize the main points? 

The reason I ask is that bending in normal use of apparently weak axles has happened to a lot of us, but I am not sure that this is going on here.
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2 month mark coming up in days.. Lippert is sending someone out to inspect. Still being optimistic of a good outcome. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 8:28am
I'd be pretty happy if they came back with a similar repair for mine! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2019 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by Olddawgsrule

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So your body will be 4" higher? Cancel the lift kit.

2", yet that's good as well. 2x2x1/4 tube steel was done on theirs.

One of the others I spoke to told me Lippert claimed the FR lift kit to have caused the issue. We know better than this. Basically, he modified the frame.. Ya, I know the HR comes stock with it.. Just saying what I was told.
Ahh. I misread that as QTY 2  2x1/4 tube. So it's just one 2x2 tube with 1/4 inch wall thickness? That's a damn thick thick tube.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2019 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by Olddawgsrule

 

One of the others I spoke to told me Lippert claimed the FR lift kit to have caused the issue. We know better than this. Basically, he modified the frame.. Ya, I know the HR comes stock with it.. Just saying what I was told. 

The lift kit does increase the torsional load on the frame when you, say, hit a curb or brake hard, so it could have contributed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2019 at 2:12pm
Originally posted by GlueGuy

So your body will be 4" higher? Cancel the lift kit.

2", yet that's good as well. 2x2x1/4 tube steel was done on theirs.

One of the others I spoke to told me Lippert claimed the FR lift kit to have caused the issue. We know better than this. Basically, he modified the frame.. Ya, I know the HR comes stock with it.. Just saying what I was told. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2019 at 6:26am
Originally posted by offgrid

Originally posted by Olddawgsrule

Had 3 conversations with folks with the same issue today.

Good news was for one Lippert stepped up and stacked a 2x2x1/4" tube to theirs. That was pleasing to hear. Their unit is equal to the age of mine.



Interesting. Any details on what exactly Lippert did? Welded the two tubes together? How? Length of second tube? 



They're going to get back to me about type of welding done, yet welded and went full length. Placed under the original frame, so not sure stacked is the correct term. I did ask about their axle as well. First comment was it's good. Further conversation about checking inbound and outbound separately caught them unknowing. That they will also re-check.
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Originally posted by Olddawgsrule

Had 3 conversations with folks with the same issue today.

Good news was for one Lippert stepped up and stacked a 2x2x1/4" tube to theirs. That was pleasing to hear. Their unit is equal to the age of mine.



Interesting. Any details on what exactly Lippert did? Welded the two tubes together? How? Length of second tube? 


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