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    Posted: 07 Aug 2019 at 8:30am
Originally posted by offgrid

Yeah you definitely need to get the frame straightened and reinforced. Easier than if the floor and wall was damaged, as Toyanvil says find a good frame shop.

Check out your axle too, usually it bends before the frame does. See my last post on that.

You might also get a weight on that axle and see how close you are to the 3500 lb max.

Good luck!

Each time I head out on an extended run (3K to 6K runs) I go to the Weigh Station and check my weigh. Then my tongue weight. I'm very cautious of loaded weight, especially since we travel for months at a time. I was just under 3200# on the last run, fully loaded, Fresh filled, gray/black are < 1/4 full or empty when traveling (typically empty). 

I still have the extended warranty in place. Have no idea if FR will cover this..
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I am doubtful on FR covering it, but you darn sure need to try..

The good thing is, a repair and reinforcement shouldn't be very expensive.. regardless of who ends up paying.
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Originally posted by furpod

I am doubtful on FR covering it, but you darn sure need to try..

The good thing is, a repair and reinforcement shouldn't be very expensive.. regardless of who ends up paying.

I have an appointment for next Thursday for the Dealer to inspect this. Oh, I am going to try!!
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Originally posted by offgrid

The most common failure folks see from an axle overload (if that’s what this is) is a bent axle so you might want to check for that too. If you run a string line along the bottom of the axle tube it should show a slight crown in the center, like about 3/16 or 1/4 inch or so. If it’s not the the axle tube has probably been bent too. You can also look for the wheel on that side having negative camber (splayed out at the bottom).

I will check that. I do watch tire wear and at one point thought I had a negative camber on that wheel. That should have been the first sign, yet didn't see usual wear. Well, towards the edges anyway, did notice center wear and lowered the tire pressure a bit.      
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Finally some good news! The axle is not bent! Still have a slightly over 1/8" crown! 

Of course that leads to even more confusion as too why this occurred. 
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I guess I should have asked, weight on the tires or off to measure the crown?
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Working through some engineering strengths..

Anyone know the actual thickness of the steel used to build the frame?

Minimum seems to be 5/64's or 14gauge steel.
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The axle tube really shouldn’t bend under normal conditions so it’s fine to measure the crown with the weight on the wheels. I miked the frame tube thickness on mine at 0.1 inch. Pretty thin material.

The fact that you have been meticulous about weighing your rig should help with your FR warranty claim. I would emphasize that you know for sure that you were not overweight when you discuss it with them, and that you have not taken your rig on anything except normal roads. Let’s hope they take care of the problem for you.
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Originally posted by Olddawgsrule

Finally some good news! The axle is not bent! Still have a slightly over 1/8" crown! 

Of course that leads to even more confusion as too why this occurred. 
The best way to check your axle is with a 24" bubble level. The wheels should be the same as the side walls of the trailer, it's that easy. Just check the plumb of the wheels and then move up to the wall, should be the same. The axle arch should be different trailer to trailer, they bend the arch to align the wheels. Mine was just aligned and has 3/8+ of arch.
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Is your frame rusted inside or out?
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