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    Posted: 05 Nov 2020 at 11:54am
Corvair and VW were pretty much the same configuration, so that's not surprising. They also both had the same sometimes not so nice handling issues. I had a friend with a Corsa Turbo convertible, fun car but it liked to swap which end was in front once in awhile. So did my bug. Star
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2020 at 10:41am
Reminds me of the '63 Corvair that was my first car. I could go through some snow with that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2020 at 9:03am
No matter how you cut it, you will be borderline at best. So, weigh your fully loaded rig, check actual weights against all the specs, don't assume. I think you'll be surprised how heavy things can get. I was. 

mjlrpod, actually the old VW's did great in the snow. The light front end, flat body pan and rear weight over the drive wheels allowed the old bugs to ride up over big drifts without getting stuck.  If a huge drift stopped them all you had to do was back up and hit it again till you pushed through.  I had one living in Cambridge during the blizzard of '78 and I was driving all over Boston in it 'till the police stopped me to tell me they had shut down the city and I had to go home and park it. Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2020 at 8:06am
I've camped in a several places that have dirt roads. Actually many do. You have front wheel drive, and several hundred pounds pushing down the rear, which pushes up the front. Even a small up hill climb is going to be a challenge. I've been in one or two places that I was a little nervous about the inclined dirt roads, and I have 4 wheel drive if needed. We are not telling you the subby can't do it at all, but it is not up to every challenge you will meet for certain. The other thing is possible legal trouble if you were to get into an accident. People want you to realize you are using a volkswagon bug to plow your street. One or two inches of snow, ya might get by. I pulled a popup with my crosstrek for a year (1 summer). I made it, but I had some challenges. As I said, good luck in the future
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2020 at 6:18am
Completely agree with what you are saying. There is more to it than just horsepower. After doing extensive research on the Subaru Onyx XT before buying the 171, Subaru at least did put a transmission cooler on those XT models. I really think Subaru did try to improve its towing ability from prior years and models. I just wish Subaru would have had prewired for brake controller and 7pin rather than just the 4pin. We ended up using the Curt Bluetooth brake controller. So far so good on that front.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2020 at 9:44pm
Another aspect that hasn't been mentioned are the other important parts of the tow vehicle--the brakes and the transmission.
We initially towed our 173 with a Chevy Astro van. It had the power, but the transmission was not up to the task. After we replaced the transmission. we bought a used tow vehicle that will do the job.
Horsepower is only that-power, it doesn't always move you down the road, up the hills or stop you going down the hills.
You need a transmission cooler and serious brakes at a minimum. the rear axle ratio is also important to keep the rpm's down and the  transmission working long term.
Be careful-your tail will wag the dog easier than you know at this point in your towing career.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2020 at 4:15pm
Please don't make your final determination because you have decided that you have enough horsepower to haul the trailer down the road. That was never in any serious doubt.

 Its all about weight. Go weigh the trailer, trailer tongue, tow vehicle and total combined weight as loaded for travel and compare those numbers to your specs. If you are under on all of them and you feel comfortable, fine. If you are over on any of them then you are not legal so please don't do it. 

If you do a search of my posts I explain how to do that at a public scale. Either free at you local transfer station or a modest fee and an hour or two and you will know for sure. Its easy and well worth the effort. 
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We have an update.... So we purchased a 2021 Rpod 171 UVW of 2600 lb loaded maybe 2900 lbs. Our 2020 Subaru Outback Onxy XT did pretty darn well. You can tell the camper was back there, but there was plenty of power for acceleration and going up some of the Indiana Hills the rpm's would hit about 3k but for the most part they stayed around 1800 - 2000 rpm's. We got about 14mpg round trip with 25mph wind gusts on the way back home. We didn't use a WDH as Subaru doesn't recommend them but may consider adding a anti sway bar if we are going to do cross country driving.
A better option than a sway bar is an electronic sway control such as that from Hayes (Sway-Master) or Tuson (Sway Control) or Lippert (Sway Command). I have the Hayes and it is plug-and-play for installation. Also, there is no worries about backing with it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2020 at 2:54pm
Sounds like you have made your decision to tow with the subaru. I hope everything works out great, although, I think it's a matter of time. Good luck 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2020 at 2:26pm
We have an update.... So we purchased a 2021 Rpod 171 UVW of 2600 lb loaded maybe 2900 lbs. Our 2020 Subaru Outback Onxy XT did pretty darn well. You can tell the camper was back there, but there was plenty of power for acceleration and going up some of the Indiana Hills the rpm's would hit about 3k but for the most part they stayed around 1800 - 2000 rpm's. We got about 14mpg round trip with 25mph wind gusts on the way back home. We didn't use a WDH as Subaru doesn't recommend them but may consider adding a anti sway bar if we are going to do cross country driving.
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