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    Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 2:38pm
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I would say all good points to make sure that your weights are within specs, but I think it's a mistake to think that if you have sufficient 'reserve capacity' under your towing limits you're good to go.  To me, trailer balance and sway control seem to be the things to worry about most.  Here's an argument that 'short wheelbase' trailers (which I think we all have here) are particularly prone to instability:

https://rv.org/blogs/news/short-wheelbases-and-accidents-go-hand-in-hand


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Good read, thanks Mark.  This would agree with Offgrid's many comments and posts in the past stating to keep at least 11% or more weight on the tongue for reducing sway and for the most part eliminating the 'white knuckle' driving experience.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote offgrid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2021 at 9:03am
Originally posted by MarkW

I would say all good points to make sure that your weights are within specs, but I think it's a mistake to think that if you have sufficient 'reserve capacity' under your towing limits you're good to go.  To me, trailer balance and sway control seem to be the things to worry about most.  Here's an argument that 'short wheelbase' trailers (which I think we all have here) are particularly prone to instability:
https://rv.org/blogs/news/short-wheelbases-and-accidents-go-hand-in-hand


So does that mean you will go weigh your rig (not just the trailer and tongue) and report the results here relative to your limits?
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Originally posted by MarkW

...Here's an argument that 'short wheelbase' trailers (which I think we all have here) are particularly prone to instability:

https://rv.org/blogs/news/short-wheelbases-and-accidents-go-hand-in-hand

Interesting article.  I've never seen the "back-of-ball ratio" discussed before.  I believe that's the ratio of hitch ball-to-trailer axle/hitch ball-to-rear bumper.  50% = marginal-to-bad whereas 75% = good-great.

Not sure how that's measured on dual-axle trailers...maybe halfway between the axles?

High BOB potentially equates to higher tongue weights as well, so that would also contribute to more stability.
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Thanks for the interesting article MarkW.  I agree that TV capacity is only one of many elements to be considered in safely towing a trailer.

Here is another trailer weight calculator that may be of use:
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Everyone has their own idea of what constitutes overloaded.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Olddawgsrule Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2021 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by lostagain

Thanks for the interesting article MarkW.  I agree that TV capacity is only one of many elements to be considered in safely towing a trailer.

Here is another trailer weight calculator that may be of use:

That happens to be one the calculators used for axle placement in the builder's forum.It'sused quite a bit!
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Wow! That proves Fords are tough trucks.

But, the all time overloads are in the coffee country of Colombia where the ubiquitous Willys is the ultimate pack mule.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKf2GlFnwfI  In fact, when I lived in Colombia, I lost a friend who was taking is coffee down from the mountain to sell and went off a cliff from being overloaded.
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Originally posted by MarkW

I would say all good points to make sure that your weights are within specs, but I think it's a mistake to think that if you have sufficient 'reserve capacity' under your towing limits you're good to go.  To me, trailer balance and sway control seem to be the things to worry about most.  

First you say "to make sure that your weights are within specs", yet then "I think it's a mistake to think that if you have sufficient 'reserve capacity' ".

Dude your going both ways here.. You're either with factory spec's or your not. The mistake is believing you can go beyond 'comfortably'. There's a reason for those 'spec's'! 

Take the time and hit the scales. My town on Saturdays has no issues at all. Free if they don't print a ticket. They had fun with me and what I was doing! I know what my dry weight is of trailer alone (not stated, actual) telling me how much I can load. I know what the trailer hitched is and combined weight. No guessing, no "it works for me", no BS, actual weights.

It's worth the time..


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