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pedwards2932
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Topic: sidewall demaination Posted: 05 Jul 2021 at 7:19am |
I think the epoxy is holding fine.....it is difficult to get the clamping precise. I am a perfectionist so what I am saying the repair isn't perfect but I would say about 90%.
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lostagain
Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2587 |
Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 10:16pm |
If you're having problems getting the MAX-GPE resin to bond to luan, you may want to give West Systems Epoxy folks a call to see what they would suggest. They are famous for bonding wood laminations for beautifully crafted laminated wood boats.
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pedwards2932
Senior Member Joined: 21 Sep 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 338 |
Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 3:20pm |
I have a 2017 r189 that is having similar delaminations.....absolutely a factory screw up. I built a frame for clamping and am using MAX GPE -General Purpose Grade Epoxy Resin System it was $83 for 3/4 gal. I'd like to say it is working perfectly but it isn't.....I have never seen fiberglass stay bonded to luan. I have injected epoxy and used a veneer roller to try to spread it. Then clamped it....it fixes alot but there is still bubbling. I think my repair will hold but it aint perfect.
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dcool1
Newbie Joined: 18 May 2021 Location: FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Posted: 09 Jun 2021 at 2:49pm |
Has anyone else used products other than Stabond to to adhere filon. I need one product to glue the plywood to the foam and another for the filon to plywood. Both are about $225 per gallon. All to do approx 24 square feet. There's got to be something else.
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dcool1
Newbie Joined: 18 May 2021 Location: FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Posted: 02 Jun 2021 at 4:11pm |
looks like its built like a boat. no delaming, easy to patch, etc. i like it
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fwunder
Senior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 02 Jun 2021 at 3:51pm |
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dcool1
Newbie Joined: 18 May 2021 Location: FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Posted: 02 Jun 2021 at 3:37pm |
Hi All,
We met with a few people who do RV body work. $15k to replace the whole side of our 180. We pulled a window out and looked down into the delam area, no water damage. The filon is just falling off the plywood. You can see bubbles all over the wall from the middle of the windows down. Its definitely a factory defect, but FR wants nothing to do with it. Thought about hiring an attorney, but we'd probably just be throwing good money after bad. FR probably has an army of attorneys fending off this sort of stuff. We've decided to cut out a section from mid window to the top of the storage compartments and replace it with new filon. Then add a flat trim seam at top and bottom of that new piece. Trying to pull it back and adhere again or add epoxy, etc would not be easy, so we made this choice. Hopefully it looks ok. I removed all of the decals on the opposite side this past weekend. We're going to add a brown vinyl piece down that side too to try to make it look the same. ??? We'll see how that works out. What a freaking nightmare this RV has turned out to be. I will NEVER buy another fiberglass RV. Who would design such a thing that is so hard to work on. Live and learn. |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 19 May 2021 at 6:53pm |
If the fiberglass is still attached to most of the area then the adhesive is still good there. Can you lift the fiberglass a bit so it dries out in there and then drill a some small holes, inject some adhesive and press and hold the fiberglass down until the adhesive cures?
If you do have to remove the whole wall, why not replace it with a new layer of flat fiberglass rather than a corrugated surface which will be harder to trim out around the edges? |
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dcool1
Newbie Joined: 18 May 2021 Location: FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Posted: 19 May 2021 at 2:19pm |
Yes, I really think something wasn't right from the factory on ours. There is no evidence of a hole, crack, etc at the window seal. The bubbling didn't start at the window, its started about a foot below the window and slowly got bigger and bigger, so it has to be some sort of failure with the adhesive. All along the wide pin strip decal area is loose now too, which is no where near an opening. Nothing we can do now but take the financial hit and fix it. I do appreciate any advise y'all have with the corrugated alum covering.
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3227 |
Posted: 19 May 2021 at 1:30pm |
Having been an owner of a 177 for 10 years now I will be the first to admit that outside of using some MeGuiar's ultimate wax on the window seals (1x/year) I have done no 'maintenance' to the seals or have I ever used caulk around them either. And . . . . no leaks . . . . no issues.
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