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offgrid
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Topic: solar panels Posted: 30 Oct 2021 at 10:48am |
Roughly speaking batteries have a round trip efficiency of about 80%, 12v inverters and AC to DC chargers around 85% percent each, and solar charge controllers around 90-95%. So taking your solar output through the Jackery to the trailer battery is going to have an overall efficiency of around 0.95 * 0.80 * 0.85 * 0.85 = about 55% vs. around 95% if you take the solar output directly to the trailer battery through a charge controller. So it's a pretty big loss.
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texastreehugger
Newbie Joined: 09 Oct 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Oct 2021 at 8:56am |
Thanks, I will look into charge controllers. The losses going through multiple systems makes sense, I just didn't have a feel for how much loss.
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offgrid
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 10:40pm |
What you want to do will work but not well. You will as you point out be limited by the trickle charger output which won't be enough to run much. Also, there is going to be a lot of wasted energy by going from DC current from the Jakery solar modules though the Javkery charge controller, batteries, and it's internal DC to AC inverter, only to get converted back again to DC by the truck charger
Instead, why not run the Javkery solar modules trough a charge controller directly to your trailer battery? should be much more efficient and not limited by the trickle charger. I checrd the Solarsaga 100 module specs and they should work just fine that way. You will need to buy a new charge controller but get a simple PWM type, they're not expensive. |
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texastreehugger
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 9:21pm |
Thanks all! Our pod has a single 12v battery configuration and 30 lb propane tank. I took it to a refill station and they confirmed it was nearly full. We will be in Texas so frigid weather should not be too extreme. We will prepare for it just in case. My main question is if I can use the power station and battery tender to recharge the battery (rather than solar panels and charge controller). I realize a trickle charger is really for maintaining a charge, but our Electric use will mainly be lights, charging phone, gps, etc, maybe some tv (kids) which seems like a pretty light use. I've used battery tenders for motorbikes and cars to maintain a charge and I have had success in bringing a slighty depleted battery up to full My battery tender has an inline fuse (simlar to the unit in Colt's post) and I'm thinking it should not damage the battery.
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texastreehugger
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 9:15pm |
Accidentally double posted
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Ricktoon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2021 at 11:09pm |
Here is a view of the SAE connector on the outside of the battery box. Used silicone to ensure a waterproof connection. Small cover protects the plug when not in use. A metail plate added behind connector hold the charge controller which has magnet attached to the back. |
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TEDDY
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2021 at 10:59pm |
Used propane for the fridge camping for 9 days at Shenandoah - used the two solar panels and charge controller to recharge the batteries every day - used interior lights sparingly (battery lanterns work well, even for reading. I also carry a single mantle propane lantern - lots of light and heat. Even used the water pump as Shenandoah Great Meadows has no sites with water. Also used propane for heating water a couple of times. At the end of 9 days I still had about 1/4 of a 20# propane tank left - I only have one tank. This all works fine if you have sun-light. If the weather is bad, you may need to charge your battery with the tow vehicle daily - run for an our or so.
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Ricktoon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2021 at 10:58pm |
Here is my connection process from charge controller to battery. My charge controller is at the top right and wired to a short cable with an SAE male connector on the end. I then mounted an SAE female connector (right side) to the battery box with a fuse holder inline on the positive lead. The female connector allows me to plug in the solar without opening the battery box. It is like the solar ready connectors on many older versions of the RPod, I checked to make sure positive and negative are correct with the wiring all the way through.
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jato
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2021 at 9:56pm |
The fridge will run a long time on propane, the propane hog would be the furnace as you camp in colder weather unless you are at a place that offers electric. Our last 30 day trip we ran the furnace a lot as night temps were always in the 40's or 50's at night in the Rockies during the month of September. We did empty one 20# cylinder but when we left it was probably only half full. This is why we always carry two tanks. And yes, I woke up at 3:45 am at the Great Sand Dunes N.P. and it was about 41 that night, didn't feel much warmer inside as we were both asleep when the tank ran out.
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TEDDY
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2021 at 9:17pm |
The two prong port on the rear of my 2017 rPod goes straight to the battery - there is no charge controller in that line. I use two 100 watt solar panels when no shore power is available in a campground. I run them thru a Renology 30 amp charge controller, connecting the charge controller to the battery directly via aligator clips. You must use a charge controller if you use solar panels to recharge you rPod battery, or you could damage the battery.
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