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    Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 4:34pm
Well said!  When I was a kid I can remember mom purchasing cottage cheese in metal "drink" cups or so it seemed.  They could be returned for 2 cents or in her case, she kept a set of 5 (all different colors for each of us boys; i being the youngest got stuck with the ugly army green colour.

It sickens me to thinks that so much we purchase doesn't make it to the recycler as we have gone out of our way to purchase items than normally can be recycled such as 'recyclable' plastics, glass, cardboard and paper.  Last year we did manage to generate 4 bags of trash for the entire year that went to the landfill.  The rest we either recycle, or put into compost for our garden, got to love all the egg shells for the Ca it adds to the soil profile!
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  I was at the grocery store and included in the groceries I purchased were plant based protein foods and while checking out a young girl who was bagging the groceries commented on the plant based proteins. She was educated on the benifits of plant based proteins even eating insects for protein and that let me realized more that a younger generation is becoming more educated of using our natural resources more wisely. As time goes by and a younger generation is more involved in making decisions hopefully things will change for the better. We as americans have made progress in learning from our mistakes and hopefull a younger generation will speed up the progress, we all need to do our part to be good stewards of the planet we live on.
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i frequently wonder how much is really being recycled.  i recycle everything possible, and i ask the company that picks mine up exactly whats going on with it.  they assure me everything possible is, but i really doubt that.  i sampled a plant based chicken breast the other day at costco, sorry but it was the most disgusting thing i have ever tried!!  jon
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Only about 5% of plastic is recycled in the US. Yep, 5%. Plastic bottles fare better at around 28%. Paper is much better at around 2/3, as is aluminum and cardboard are great at about 85%-90. Glass, which should be easily reclycable, in only about 1/3.

Pretty pathetic overall
but the plastic is by far the worst offender, and it's rate has been going down because of foreign countrys import bans in recent years.

So why is plastic so bad? Unless it has a 1,2, or 5 in the recycling triangle on it you might as well throw it in the landfill. No one can reprocess anything else, all the other numbers are pretend recycling put there by the manufacturers to make you feel good cause you think they get recycled. For the rest, thereis a ready market because most companies want to be able to take green credits so would buy the recycled material, even though it is more expensive than virgin plastic. But there isn't enough capacity.

So it's a mess, and it's gotten worse not better. Probably we should quit using plastic for most things altogether, even when it is recycled it's energy inefficient and produces toxic gasses. What was so wrong with cardboard milk cartons and paper grocery sacks?
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Originally posted by offgrid

So why is plastic so bad? Unless it has a 1,2, or 5 in the recycling triangle on it you might as well throw it in the landfill. No one can reprocess anything else, all the other numbers are pretend recycling put there by the manufacturers to make you feel good cause you think they get recycled. For the rest, thereis a ready market because most companies want to be able to take green credits so would buy the recycled material, even though it is more expensive than virgin plastic. But there isn't enough capacity. 
Here we're told to only recycle those plastics, and particularly only #1 bottles and jars (defined as the mouth smaller than the body, which I guess indicates a blow molding process), not the other forms like takeout containers made of #1. I'm fairly confident that the items we're told to recycle actually have a ready market and they're not just going to the incinerator en route to the landfill.
One item that I'm surprised that we're asked to recycle is aseptic cartons like juice boxes and broth containers. I'm not sure how they're recycled, but it's one of the few items still accepted after China shut down their imports.
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Its a feel good thing,like when I get out of my G-4 and hop in my Prius .Feels good 
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winterpod; are you referring to a "feel good thing" as one who is recycling but it really is a waste of time; if so thats how i feel sometimes.  jon
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   I beleve all Walmart stores has the soft plastic recycling bins as you enter their stores. We collect all our soft plastic ( plastic bags, bubble wrap, and plastic wrapping ) and drop it off in the Walmart plastic recycle bins. I don't know how much gets recycled but my thinking is the plastic will hopefully be kept in one location and if it can't be recycled now hopefully it will be in the future. There are companies working on ways to recycle plastic I watched a program on TV that a bacteria was being researched that would eat the plastic. Hopefully someone will find someway to process the plastic to make use of it or destroy it because I don't think there will be a substitute for plastic anytime soon.
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@DandD, you are correct in your speculation that not everything that goes into a recycle bin is recycled. Not too long ago, it was revealed that Albuquerque could not staff the recycling plant and could not negotiate a contract for recycling. Even though the citizens dutifully separated their recycling and dropped off glass in centrally located recycling stations, the City simply dumped everything into the landfill. I'm pretty sure that scenario has played out in many other cities.
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i pay a good penny to get mine picked up........i think its time to invest that money in the market.  jon
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