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jato 
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 Topic: LT vs ST tiresPosted: 25 Apr 2024 at 7:33pm |
Both the above are good tires although we had friends that had a goodyear endurance blow out (and took the fender as well) that was only a year old. Regardless, the Carlisle has a warranty that is 2x longer than goodyear, something to consider upon your purchase. |
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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gpokluda
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Posted: 25 Apr 2024 at 9:54am |
Our Escape has steel wheels and Discount is only 3 miles from our house so I think the tech just didn't do their job. You are right about checking lugs. Escape recommends anytime you change a tire/wheel, you retorque every 60 miles for 300 miles. I was seeing give in our lug nuts up to 1000miles when we first picked up our trailer. After that, the lugs were stable but I still check them periodically, at least before every trip.
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Gpokluda
2017 Rpod 179(sold 2023) 2022 Escape 5.0TA 2022 Ford F150 4X4 3.5EB Triumph T120 |
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StephenH
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Posted: 22 Apr 2024 at 9:55pm |
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It could also be that with the alloy rims, they may have been torqued, but loosened. That is why it is good to check torque after 50 miles. I don't remember off the to of my head, but it is also good to check them once a day at least until they stay torqued. Also, even load range D tires are not immune to blowouts. We had that happen to us. I had noticed wear on one of the Carlisle LR-D tires and had planned to replace it when we got to our daughter's house on a previous trip. The tire did not make it that far.. I hope to never have that happen again. Our current trailer is a tandem axle model so the load per tire is less.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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gpokluda
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Posted: 22 Apr 2024 at 5:18pm |
My new camper came with the Carlisle Radial Trails. Due to some axle issues, I had to replace all four tires after just 10K miles. I was going to go with the Carlisles again but decided on the Goodyears at the last minute. I went with Load range E as well. I also got them at Discount. I had them balanced and told them to torque the lug nuts to 95ft-lbs. When I got home I inspected the lug nuts and about half were under torqued.
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Gpokluda
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James07
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Posted: 22 Apr 2024 at 1:42pm |
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So, I learned that I've been running 6 ply (load range C) Toyo Open Country AT light truck tires on my pod. Have been trouble free, including a round trip to Alaska over the pot holes on the Alcan.
However, with the info you all have posted, will be going with Carlisle Radial Trial or Goodyear Endurance both load range E special trailer tires. Carlisle $135 and Goodyear $199 at Discount Tires. Big difference in price.
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Pod People
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Posted: 21 Apr 2024 at 7:57pm |
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We have had 2different R pods over the past 13 years and have gone through a lot of tires in the past.
We have had LTand ST models- China bombs and top name brands alike. Once we tried Goodyear Endurance about 5 years ago, we have had no issues and are just about to replace them due to age. They never lose air, have long tread life and have noticeably stiffer sidewalls and weigh more than other comparable size tires.They are competively priced and available in 235/14 I have no problems recommending them and will continue to personally use them Vann
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jato
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Posted: 21 Apr 2024 at 7:50pm |
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The original tires on our 177 were load range 'C'. After 6 years they were changed out to Carlisle Radial Trail load range 'D'. Both were ST flavor. A world of difference in windy conditions as well a tracking down the highway, the 'D' was far superior in both aspects.
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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john in idaho
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Posted: 20 Apr 2024 at 9:28am |
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I put load range E tires on my 179. Would not go back. Much higher safety limits, no constant small sway in the mirrors, and no "squish" in the side walls (in the mirror) going over bumps such as the transition between road surface and bridge deck. Was concerned that the 80lb pressure would make there trailer bounce and rattle but that just isn't a problem. It just tows better.
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lostagain
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Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 10:50am |
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Some things to think about when considering LT vs. ST tires: When an LT radial tires is rated as "10 ply" it doesn't necessarily mean that there are 10 plies in the sidewall. They have an E load range capacity for use in a light truck, thus the "10 ply rating." The sidewall flexibility is designed for the cornering needs of a light truck. The higher the aspect ration is on a tire the more it flexes when subjected to lateral loads as in a high wind or a curve. For use in a trailer one might consider using with an LT tire as low an aspect ration as possible. ST tires are built from different and stronger components than an LT tire. Here is an interesting comparison: https://blog.coach-net.com/2021/03/03/st-vs-lt-tires-whats-the-difference/#:~:text=Because%20of%20the%20heavier%20construction,resist%20aging%20and%20UV%20rays.
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gpokluda
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Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 8:27am |
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I'll be the dissenting voice on this thread. I did a lot of research on ST vs LT tires when I put new tires on our 179. Your options for the OEM 235 tires on the Rpod are limited in the ST category and I wanted to stay with that size. After consulting several tire shops that were well versed in RV and camper tires, I went with 10ply LT tires. LTs are run on premium campers such as Airstreams. If and ST tire exists in the size you are looking for, I'd go with that. FWIW, I went with Falken Wild Peak AT4 10ply.
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