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    Posted: 26 Feb 2013 at 12:33pm
 Looking at buying a gas vent less fireplace for my basement. It appears they all come without a blower. They show this as a option you have to buy separate. Any recommendations on which fireplace  to buy and is the optional blower needed to thoroughly heat the room.
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Disapprove'Vent-less' means that combustion gases are 'vented' into the room.  Supposedly, the exhaust gases are only water vapor and carbon dioxide.  Carbon monoxide is always a possibility and the so-called 'oxygen depletion' shut-off switches are not perfect.  Make sure that you have a window to vent both the moisture and CO2.  I would also buy a backup Carbon Monoxide alarm for the room.  A lot cheaper than a couple of funerals.
Without a fan, the warm air from the fireplace will rise to the ceiling and stay there.  A blower will help spread the warmth around the room.
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Posts: 1797 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 11:39am
VERY good comments and advice!
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Posts: 171 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 4:57pm
Originally posted by tsunami123

Disapprove'Vent-less' means that combustion gases are 'vented' into the room.  Supposedly, the exhaust gases are only water vapor and carbon dioxide.  Carbon monoxide is always a possibility and the so-called 'oxygen depletion' shut-off switches are not perfect.  Make sure that you have a window to vent both the moisture and CO2.  I would also buy a backup Carbon Monoxide alarm for the room.  A lot cheaper than a couple of funerals.
Without a fan, the warm air from the fireplace will rise to the ceiling and stay there.  A blower will help spread the warmth around the room.
 
A friend that had one got rid of it because of the amount of moisture it dumped into the room.  Would you consider a ceramic electric heater and fireplace DVD (just kiddin.. )Wink
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I thought about this since it was first posted and decided not to be a downer.  Now I have changed my mind.  I would never put any unvented heater in my house.  Even with detectors the risk is go great in my opinion.  I remember the unvented heaters from my youth and even in an old drafty house the headaches we would get.  It could have been much worse.
 
Sorry to be a wet blanket.  Do what you think is right.  I did need to give my opinion.
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Posts: 6128 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 8:21pm
While I don't fear ventless, I wouldn't put one in a basement.. they give off a lot of water vapor, something most basements don't need. However, the "direct vent" appliances don't need a real chimney,they just need to reach the outside to draw/expel air.
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Posts: 454 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 7:49pm
I'd suggest you try and see if you can go with a direct vent FP rather than a ventless ... as others have said it puts a ton of moisture into the room.  My father-in-law found this out the hard way when he ended up with mold issues.
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Posts: 32 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 2:43pm
Thanks for your replies.  Think I'll look into the vented style.
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