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OhTallMan 
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Joined: 30 Mar 2014 Location: Columbus, Ohio Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
 Topic: 12 volt power socket installed in 177Posted: 01 May 2014 at 10:38am |
Sorry to be late to this portion of the conversation, but let me just add this: As a professional photographer I understand a bit about copyright, fair use laws and attribution etiquette. At minimum attribution of a photo is required, and certainly appreciated. It is not fair, right or legal to simply use someone else's work without acknowledgement - even if the photo is taken by Joe Schmoe camper. A link to the Web site the pics were taken from would be even better. What I found unusual about this series of photos is that, not only were the photos used from other sources without attribution, the modification work had not even been done by the poster. The more proper way to handle that would have been, "hey guys, here's an idea . . ." And "here are some pics of how to do it from Joe Schmoe . . ." Plus, a link to the original Web address would be appropriate. Hope this helps.
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CharlieM
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Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 8:00pm |
Bud, I've seen the Andersons advertised, but never seen one in person. How do they handle keying or polarity? Will two reds mate, two blacks mate, but not a red and a black? Or is it something else. Also have you ever seen a panel mount version? Any connector system to replace the cig plug will have to have a panel mount female and cable mount male. |
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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bcskimiller
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Joined: 14 Mar 2014 Location: Hollywood, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 7:45pm |
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Thanks to everybody for the quick replies! I think I'm taking all the parts I got at O'Rileys back and just ordering 4 of the Blue Sea Systems plugs. May upgrade to the built in USB chargers once they get enough power to do the IPAD and these new fancy big screen phones; till then we'll stick with our cigarette lighter ones.One last (for now...) novice question: for the wiring, especially since I will have to run some of it under the trailer, is it worth paying for the outdoor/underground low voltage 12 guage 2 wire such as this:
or will regular 12 guage 2 wire house stuff work? Thanks Again!
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Me, the Wife, 3 Kids 5 and under...its Crowded!
2014 RP-178 HRE 2017 Expedition EL 4WD |
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Budward
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Joined: 21 Apr 2014 Location: SC/NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 438 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 2:49pm |
I do like the Anderson connectors, I've used them on many things even up to 300 Amp ones for a winch...I really love the way they are "unisex"- for those that haven't seen them- only one plug is needed, two of them plug together even though they are the same!
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CharlieM
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Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 9:22am |
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I'll second the comments of Budward and Techntrek. I installed 4 extra outlets in my 172 so I can sympathize somewhat. Pulling the panel is not hard if wire slack is there; 4 screws. It will give you access to the wiring and a way to run new wires. There is also added access through that shower vent (mine was originally installed upside down). Running the wires aft to the bed should be fairly easy. The wires forward to the dinette may have to go below the floor to get across the doorway. Drilling small holes through the floor is not difficult; it's a little over 2" thick consisting of plywood and foam insulation. You can probably pass two #12 wires through a 1/4 or 3/8 inch hole. Just seal the holes afterwards with silicone or similar. Underneath the trailer I prefer the small plastic split wire molding available at auto stores for added protection. Use adequate zip ties to secure it.
I would also recommend two outlets in both locations. Easy to do while you're at it and we all keep getting more 12V gadgets. I like the BlueSea sockets, but you should use the recommended hole saw for installation. I'd also recommend plugin USB adapters for cell phones, iPads, etc. See the links below. http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems-Volt-Socket/dp/B001U4ZZPK/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1398862410&sr=8-6&keywords=bluesea http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-High-Output-Charger-iPhone/dp/B007TV88F2/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1348760263&sr=8-22&keywords=usb+charger And on the foaming job: more is better. The alternative is no foam, which FR has also done on Friday afternoon models. Makes for a really leaky cold Pod! |
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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fwunder
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Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Online Status: Offline Posts: 1676 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 9:03am |
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Pulling out the panel is not a big deal and will give you access to the grounding bus. - mine is screwed to the floor behind panel. Once out, installing adapter was straight forward; using empty fuse position and drilling hole for snap-in adapter. Oh, you will probably find a lot of sawdust behind the panel. I guess they don't have shop vacs in the factory. You will find a lot more sawdust after you tow over bumpy roads a few times.
 While you have the panel out, you'll notice the wiring running up to the stereo. Unscrew the four screws holding the stereo and you can easily install a voltmeter, dropping the wires down to the 12v. power bus and ground. The voltmeter is one of my favorite mods!  |
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2014 RPod 178 => MyMods and Buying Habits
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techntrek
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Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 7:56am |
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Ouch, definintely not as easy as the installations in the dinnettes on may other pods - about the same amount of work getting behind the converter (a few screws either way), but not as easy to run new wires.
Since cigarette lighters aren't installed in cars anymore, I wish everyone would agree to a new standard for 12 volt accessories. Something less bulky with a more secure connection (not based on the tension of a few springs). A small Anderson connector is probably best, maybe a small twist-lock 2nd best.
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Budward
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Joined: 21 Apr 2014 Location: SC/NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 438 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 4:37am |
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You were probably going to have to pull the panel anyway to fish the hot into the fuse area.
Not a big deal- IF FR did it right and left some slack in the wiring and didn't pull it tight underneath after they hooked it up to the panel. I hope so because I'm about to dive into mine too, 2014 179. My Blue Sea 12v sockets arrived yesterday, highest quality I've found and worth a few extra dollars in the long run. PS- I see FR overtightened the screws on your under shower vent also, already had mine off to straighten it and reinstall, with correct screw depth to hold but not bend.  |
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bcskimiller
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Joined: 14 Mar 2014 Location: Hollywood, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
Posted: 30 Apr 2014 at 2:00am |
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OK, so I was excited to start installing new 12 volt sockets
and started pulling off panels for the first time in my 2014 178. Unfortunately, as you can see from my
pictures, the power panel is in the bathroom wall and the only access to the
bus bar would be to pull the entire panel out.
The other problem is that all power is run from the back of the panel
thru the floor under the trailer thru a crappy spray foam job (and you can see
where the ground is also). After going
under the trailer, all wires are run very clean and wrapped in the plastic protectors
where they exit the spray foam, so basically impossible to tell what is what. I started pulling my “lights” fuses and found that it
appears my kitchen LED light has its own 15 amp fuse. At this point I’m looking at either finding
where it comes up under the sink and tying into that or just jumping into the very
accessible furnace or water pump circuits which are right under the bed and
right where I want one of the outlets.
These outlets sure are becoming a lot more work then I thought they were
going to be… One other thing for this new pod modder, I’m assuming all
brake and trailering lights are run off the TV and are completely independent
from the power system in the trailer itself (except the emergency break away)? With all the back, side, wheel well and
spoiler lights, there are low voltage wires run everywhere it seems like!    |
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CharlieM
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Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 9:50pm |
Talk about PITA................ |
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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