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    Posted: 10 Feb 2011 at 4:57pm
Don't hit yourself too hard!  LOL 
 
Everyone please understand that I do not intend to bash anyone's vehicle of choice.  You can pull a Pod with a 4 cyl. (I did - to the Rocky Mts. and back).  My opinions/suggestions are intended towards those who might be considering a new TV.  My hope is to have them look at the information/data, run the numbers, and come up with an answer of their choosing.   
 
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    I am hitting myself in the head thinking I could of had a V8. Our Liberty with the 3.7 V6 does not get that good of gas mileage. Most of our driving is rural with a little city and a little Hwy. We average about 19.5 mpg. I do not drive fast, I excelerate slow.      David
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Originally posted by AvalancheRpod

My 5.3L Avalanche (same drivestrains as a Silverado or Sierra) is rated at 15city, 21 highway. I don't see the benefit of having a 3.5L V6 with the complexity of two turbochargers (which is what ecoboost is) to get only 1 mpg more (16/22). The V8 is working far less and logically should last longer with lower maintenance bills.
 
We went to the Detroit Auto show in January and were surprised to see the GMC Terrain 4wd V6 rated at only 16/22 as well and thats a 3.0L!
 
This is what I measured an average commute, for me, last summer.  I drive some county roads and some city.  I have gotten as good as 22+ on one tankful and the lowest has been about 18.5.  I still have not had it on the highway long enough to get a good reading on that mileage...it seems I'm always towing a camper when I'm on the highway LOL.  I usually get around 12-13 when towing.  My RPMs stay around 1700-1800 in tow/haul mode.
 
This is the 5.3L V8 325HP, Flex Fuel with Active Fuel Management, 4speed auto trans, 3.42 gears.  I can't remember what the EPA rating was, but I think I'm exceeding that. 
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   As far as dissipating heat someone once told me that is a advantage the inline engines have over a V configuration of cylinders. There are some inline engines with enough horsepower to pull the RPods. Something else to think about. I liked the humor of another forum member ,you may buy a 6 cylinder engine and later hit your head and say you could have had a V8.      David and Danette
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My 5.3L Avalanche (same drivestrains as a Silverado or Sierra) is rated at 15city, 21 highway. I don't see the benefit of having a 3.5L V6 with the complexity of two turbochargers (which is what ecoboost is) to get only 1 mpg more (16/22). The V8 is working far less and logically should last longer with lower maintenance bills.
 
We went to the Detroit Auto show in January and were surprised to see the GMC Terrain 4wd V6 rated at only 16/22 as well and thats a 3.0L!
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Originally posted by tdrace

Thanks I am going to see if I can get a deal on a 2010 V-8- 5-4 engine. they have a lot of good deals right now. One dealership offered 11,000 off the sticker price. Wish me luck!Smile

 
Good luck!  That's about the kind of deal I got last year on mine.  I guess it's the "upside" of a still sluggish economy.  This was one thing that factored into my decision to buy.  I bought my 2009 the day after Thanksgiving, 2009.  They had a bunch of them, and if memory serves, they had not even started making the 2010s because of this.  I was lucky and found the exact option package that I wanted.  This made for a rather "lean" year in 2010.  But, with the title in hand, I'm a happy camper....and happier getting there too! Smile
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Thanks I am going to see if I can get a deal on a 2010 V-8- 5-4 engine. they have a lot of good deals right now. One dealership offered 11,000 off the sticker price. Wish me luck!Smile
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After reviewing data from other sites, seems the 5.0 might be the engine to have.  The 6.2 is not fuel efficient, the 3.7 V6 is decent hp, but perhaps not enough torque for those who tow.  The $700 extra EcoBoost gets only 1 mpg more than the 5.0.. with just 5 hp more!  Can you imagine how many years it would take to regain that extra cost?  But...the concern I have now is what some engineers say is the V6 EcoBoost's inherent smallness (fewer cylinders) to dissipate heat created by 365 hp.  Ford limited the speed of the EcoBoost on the Taurus and some are saying the inability to dissipate the extra heat through only 6 cylinders versus 8 in the 5.0 is the reason why!  Is this something I should worry about if I want to buy the EcoBoost, especially in a heavy pickup?  I welcome any suggestions because for the little gas savings (1 mpg) and the extra cost ($700), I worry about the long term reliability
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I copied the above from one of the car sites I look at from time to time.  He kinds of sums up my view, plus there are 2 turbos to go wrong.  I'd like to see a small turbo-diesel.
 
My truck gets around 20mpg - city & county roads, no highway.  If you could get 2 mpgs more than me (22), at $3.00 per gallon, driving 15000 miles per year, you would spend $205 less than me (about $3.94 per week).   
 
(Now at home...finishing comments Smile)
 
With the above said, I am impressed with the horsepower and torque of this motor.  Really nice - the peak torque is low in the rpm range (about 2000, if memory serves).  So, the numbers say it should tow well.  The downside is EPA 16/21mpg (if memory serves), 2 turbos to maintain and the additional $700.
 
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Originally posted by tdrace

I  am looking at a Ford F-150. They have a new v-6 that will pull 6700 lbs. Does  anyone have any thoughts?
Personally, I'd go with a V8 - more HP and torque, but not a huge difference in mpgs.  However, I have not looked at the specs on the new Ford engines.  Although I'm a Chevy/GMC guy, Ford trucks enjoy a good reputation and have a loyal following.
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I  am looking at a Ford F-150. They have a new v-6 that will pull 6700 lbs. Does  anyone have any thoughts?
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