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Patriot Dave
Senior Member Joined: 06 Feb 2016 Location: LaSalle, Mi. 48 Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
Topic: tow vehicle question Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 9:30pm |
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Dave & Joyce
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jato
Senior Member Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Kewadin, MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 3220 |
Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 9:21pm | ||
I am with you furpod. Our 1994 Ford F-150 with 5.0 L V-8 300,000 plus miles, now a rustbucket (thank you Michigan salt) but still runs well, clutch still strong, love driving a stick, 5 speed with OD on the floor.
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God's pod
'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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Retroactive
Senior Member Joined: 15 Mar 2016 Location: Bolton, MA Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 7:37pm | ||
The one I heard was from an old loop racer, but that was during an argument about people tricking themselves into believing a 4-cyl with the same HP as V-6 are going to get the same street performance for all around sporty driving...then again, maybe I was baked. The point I was actually getting at is that humans are in general easily manipulated media puppets, that is why ads for cars always emphasize horsepower (think of how every beer ad in the 1980's had blonde girls in bikinis). People always savor the shill of "new and improved!", to think they need it to keep up with the Jonses. The only car ads that emphasize torque are usually muscle cars. It is relatively easy for car companies to squeeze a few HP out of a I-4 every few years, If Torque was as easy to increase in the agrarian sounding 4-CYL then the ads would show a lot more clinically depressed suburban commuter dads doing smoking launches at stoplights.
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Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 5:39pm | ||
You do have me curious about the Ford turbo mentioned. I'll have to research that. |
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furpod
Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128 |
Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 5:37pm | ||
I feel sorry for anyone who buys a Canyon.. but, hey, that's just me. |
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Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 5:18pm | ||
Really, you are in a great position and your plan is also great. You'll get enough "road time" to determine, first hand, what 207 ponies will do for you. You'll have a good idea of what you need at the end of the season. I made it thru one season with the GMC Canyon and bought a 5.3L Silverado, that November. I feel sorry for whoever bought that Canyon. |
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Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 5:10pm | ||
There is an old drag racer saying:
"Torque gets you off the line(launches). Horsepower wins the race." Just saying...you know.... |
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Retroactive
Senior Member Joined: 15 Mar 2016 Location: Bolton, MA Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 2:51pm | ||
There is an old saying: "Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races."
If someone watches car ads closely, when a new generation comes out they usually proclaim "Totally redesigned, now with an additional 10 horsepower!". It is a marketing gimmick, those Horsepower gains have negligible increases in torque. Usually only truck ads mention Torque specifically.
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Mountainrev
Senior Member Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Location: Eagle, Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 193 |
Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 2:43pm | ||
I'm not disagreeing with anyone about hp vs torque. Both are important factors. But based on factory tow ratings and my own personal experience, it's the lb/ft torque number that's more important when it comes to towing. My current tow vehicle, a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 3.0 liter Mercedes-Benz turbo diesel, puts out a rather lackluster 215 horsepower. But it achieves 376 lb/ft torque, giving it a factory-rated 7,400 lbs. tow capacity.
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StephenH
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Posted: 23 Mar 2016 at 1:53pm | ||
It does not have a boost gauge. However, I got an OBDII scanner and use the Torque app, so I can see what is happening. I appreciate the advice about the oil changes. Ford does indeed call for use of premium while towing. The hp and torque ratings are based on premium use.
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StephenH
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