Shopping for New Tow Vehicle |
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Topic: Shopping for New Tow Vehicle Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 5:08pm |
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 18 Sep 2016 at 6:27pm | |
As I recall the SC was about $7,000 installed. I bought the SC from Toyota OEM Part World and the local Toyota dealer installed it. The entire installation was then covered under the 3YR warranty. HOWEVER, 2013 was the last year Toyota would install and guarantee the SC. I had signed and put the deposit on a new 2014, then found out Toyota wouldn't install the SC, although the local manager assured me they would. I had to point out to the local manager he had no control over Toyota corporate. So I got a new end of year 2013. That said, the 2014 engine is identical to the 2013 so the SC should fit, but Toyota will not install and warrant it. Maybe a good third party shop would. The SC itself was around $4500. |
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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jdchristianson
Newbie Joined: 25 Sep 2016 Location: Iowa Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 1:00pm | |
Just joined the forum, we're starting to look into an R Pod. I've towed several different camper and car haulers over the years. I like long wheel bases in the tow vehicle, weight distributing hitches and sway control are wonderful. The tail should not wag the dog.
One thing I didn't notice anyone bring up, is that when figuring how much you can tow, you have to look at the Gross Combined Weight capacity of the tow vehicle. How much "cargo" including people are you putting in your tow vehicle? Mom, Dad, 2 college age kids and a St Bernard, a Canoe on the roof and 2 coolers full of ice and yummy bevearges? It all counts.
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techntrek
Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9059 |
Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 1:53pm | |
Welcome. Good point.
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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual
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CampCat
Newbie Joined: 04 Feb 2016 Location: North Dakota Online Status: Offline Posts: 38 |
Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 3:36pm | |
I like to review these guys. They have many posts, on YouTube, on numerous TVs.
https://youtu.be/0uCMJL7vOmo
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Patrick&Deanna,
Scion xB, Clark Vertex Hammock "PuppypPod", crosswind kayak Starting from scratch😄 |
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CampCat
Newbie Joined: 04 Feb 2016 Location: North Dakota Online Status: Offline Posts: 38 |
Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 3:37pm | |
It's TFL truck, on YouTube. Very informative and entertaining.
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Patrick&Deanna,
Scion xB, Clark Vertex Hammock "PuppypPod", crosswind kayak Starting from scratch😄 |
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Rustler
Senior Member Joined: 07 May 2016 Location: S. Oregon Coast Online Status: Offline Posts: 100 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 3:24am | |
Your observation brings up a good point. While overall wheelbase is important, the distance between tow ball and tow vehicle real wheels is a factor. The smaller distance tow ball to TV rear wheels the less leverage the trailer has to induce sway. Some of the SUVs have the rear wheels set relatively far back toward the tow ball, which is a good thing.
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Russ
2009 Toyota RAV4 V6 w/ tow package 2016 Rpod 171 HRE |
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 10:13am | |
That is what I was saying also. For my Escape, the distance between the rear axle and the tow ball is about 3'. On larger vehicles, that distance might be more than twice the distance with the corresponding increase in leverage. That is why I feel quite safe and why I have not experienced any significant sway over about 10,000 miles of towing with the Escape. I feel a gentle nudge when passed by tractor trailers, but nothing significant. For me, it is a good thing to feel it as I had a stroke which took away part of my peripheral vision on the left. The nudge lets me know something is there and to check my mirrors again. |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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john in idaho
Senior Member Joined: 04 Nov 2014 Location: Eagle Idaho Online Status: Offline Posts: 611 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 1:02pm | |
Now that you mention it - I noticed a little sway when I put a longer stinger on the ball so I could open the tailgate. I hadn't noticed it before, but then the trailer was fairly new then. I still plan to put an Andersen hitch on this winter.
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 3:22pm | |
The operative factor here is the ratio of vehicle wheelbase divided by hitch ball distance to the rear axle. If D is the distance from the ball to the rear axle, this ratio is WB/D. The larger this ratio the less steering by the trailer and the less sway. As D approaches zero the ratio gets very large like on a fifth wheel or tractor/trailer rig.
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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