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    Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 3:28pm
Weekend Warrior, Please don't extrapolate your experience with a truck towing to people towing with other vehicles. I am sure that the tow characteristics of your Chevy Colorado with the diesel is different than that of Steve 911 with a Toyota Highlander or than mine with our Ford Escape.

The advice you offer at the end is valid, regardless of whether someone uses a plain ball hitch, a ball hitch with a friction stabilizer, or a WD hitch with stabilization. For my part, I limit the speed to 60 mph, mainly because the AeroPlus instructions say that I should  do so to prevent damage to it. Our mileage is better also for doing so. As for the locking lever, one way to make sure that the hitch is properly connected is to try to lift the hitch and back of the TV attached with it. For me, this happens when I raise it up to put the bars on our Equal-i-zer hitch. I always use a lock and then I always cross the chains.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 12:50pm
Ive been pulling my RPOD 180 around for several months now. I picked it up in Denver and drove 450 miles on I-25 at 65 mph. No issues and no sway or distribution hitch. It tracks straight behind my truck. I took a trip to Vegas and went up I-40 for 500 miles, again, no issues. Drove from Vegas to San Diego on all the big interstates (I-15), again no issues. Drove from San Diego east on I-8 to I-10 to Phoenix and no issues. From Phoenix to New Mexico another long haul and no issues.
If I were you, I'd haul it around a while to see how you feel. Sometimes people like to place doubts in your decisions and as a result, you spend money you might not have to. The best advise I can offer is to keep the speed at 65mph and make sure you criss cross your towing chains and always, always, always place a safety pin or lock on your locking lever to make sure your hitch doesn't pop off the ball on a bumpy road surface. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 9:13pm
Thanks everyone for your responses.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 2:41pm
I am not familiar with any other WDH but I am very happy with the Andersen WHD that I have on my 178. I bought used and it came with the hitch so I didn't do any research.  The Andersen is easy to put on once you get the hitch height correct for your tow vehicle. I came from a small popup tent trailer so never used a WHD before.  I can tell a real difference, particularly with porpoising when I don't use it plus I can backup without any issues.  i would definitely recommend looking into that hitch.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2016 at 4:27pm
Our TV is a Tundra with 5.7L engine and tow package including integrated anti-sway.  We've used the E2 600# round bar from the get-go with, first, our 171 and, now, our 180.  Yes, I've towed both without the bars (to/from a dealer about 10 highway miles away) and I wasn't nearly as comfortable as when I'm using the bars.  Speeds without were around 60; any faster and I could see "wiggling" plus passing semis was a noticeable experience.  With the bars, the TV and trailer were as one unit.  My typical highway speeds are around 62-63 in 5th (6-spd tranny).  IMHO, the 600# size E2 is definitely the sweet spot for RPods.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2016 at 2:52pm
Spoke with the folks at E2 at lunch today.  Very informative.  Charlie is correct on the 1000 hitch being overkill and E2 suggest that the 800 "could be" overkill as well.  But one thing I did learn from them that I never thought of, tongue weight on the hitch data sheet is not only the tongue weight itself, but any additional weight in the tow vehicle that is behind the rear axle.  That is why they say the 600/6000 hitch is the right size for the 300 + lb tongue weight of the pods.... very interesting.  The load leveling aspect not only needs to account for the trailer tongue weight, but also lifting the rear of the tow vehicle if it is weighed down.   I have been relieved of some ignorance... not all, but some! Wink 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2016 at 12:29pm
We pull our 179 with a 2012 Highlander V6 2WD with tow package and after first using an EazLift WDH and separate sway bar, we switched to the Fastway E2, which replaced both. We're using the 600/6000 round bar model and love it! My wife hated setting up with the old WDH, but she's commented several times how easy the E2 is to set up.

Tongue weight is going to greatly depend on what you have on the tongue in the way of propane tanks and batteries. We're still using a single 20-lb tank, but we're running dual 6V golf cart batteries. Each of those batteries is heavier than the single battery that came with the Pod, so battery weight more than doubled with the switch.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2016 at 12:12pm
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When I tried weighing the tongue weight on my 179, admittedly with a method using a bathroom scale and boards which gives me a rough idea but is not as precise as I would like, I came up with a tongue weight of about 500 lbs. The 600/6000 is not out of line for that but the 400/4000 would not be good. One of these days, I will get a proper scale so I can better adjust how I load things to get the weight where I want it.

I have dual 6V batteries, one propane tank, a Stromberg Carlson Trailer Tray for a Generac iX2000 generator plus other items that we carry. I think that once you add everything you want to add, you may find that the lighter weight hitch might just be inadequate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2016 at 10:06am
I have to raise the BS flag here. Hundreds or more owners use the 600/6000 class WDHs on Pods and similarly weighted trailers. True the larger 1000/10000 hitches are overkill, uncomfortable, and maybe stressing, but the 600/6000 class is very satisfactory for Pods. Remember that when you add two propane tanks, dual batteries, some water in the WH and three tanks, and all your personal stuff you will be pushing up toward the 3500# axle rating. Keeping at the 10-15% tongue weight rule you will well within the E2 range. If you want a truth check, load the camper for normal camping and weigh the tongue. You will be surprised. I don't know who you spoke to at the Progressive, but others have gotten very different advice from the same source. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2016 at 9:49am
We have the Equal-i-zer hitch. It is rated at 600 lb tongue weight and 6000 lb capacity. You could look for a 400/4000 lb hitch. Equal-i-zer makes one of those also. With the 180, I would go with the 600/6000 or equivalent.

Progress Manufacturing is the maker of both the Equal-i-zer hitch and the Fastway E2 hitch. You can find better prices for hitches on Amazon.
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