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    Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 10:23pm
OK we are home after cutting the trip off a month early!  The vacation from hell.

First when we started using the shower, water started running out from under the shower stall.  First thought it was just not closing the shower curtain properly WRONG.  Every time you took a shower it felt like you were on a trampoline.  I finally took the inspection plate off and the plumbing had been damaged by trying to flex rigid piping.  That took bringing in a repair man to replace all the shower drain plumbing AND installing some braces to prevent flexing the shower base.  The repair man also took the bottom shower curtain guide off and properly installed caulking.... Under the track - not on the top like the factory install.

Let's see what else... Oh yes the battery charger is generating so much noise that the AM radio reception is not possible.  It will have to be replaced totally.

Also there is a constant DC load of about 3/4 amp ALL THE TIME.  The ONLY way to stop it is to disconnect the battery.  You charge the battery, turn off the charger, and next morning the battery is dead.  Going to make boon-docking or staying at Camp Walmart very difficult.

The door on the bathroom cabinet sounds like a rusty iron gate when opening or closing.  

Few other things also.   Bottom line is that it is now back at the dealer to fix these items.  If past service is any idea of what to expect - but this is not a Forest River problem.

Couple all of the above with Palm Springs weather of freezing nights, cold days, and heavy rain and that didn't help either.

Oh well maybe be better next trip.

Couple of good things was that we were able to hook up with a Forest River person who pulled all the stops to start getting the things fixed AND the trailer did pull like a dream.  Most of the time didn't even know it was back there.

That's it for now.  When I get the Rpod back I'll continue with the mods and take and post pictures of what I have already done.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 11:33am
Bill,
Sorry to here about the maiden voyage from hell!. But it sound like your still in good spirits !

I turned off the breaker to the charger and sure enough the AM radio works much better.
I find it odd that this could be an issue in 2017 . 

That 3/4 amp draw, how did you figure that out? some type of tester? I would try pulling different fuses til the culprit turned  up, and then have a talk with it.  Keep me up to date.

We were in Anza Borrego and Joshua Tree Mid December and it was beautiful day and night 72/60,  I think we got lucky! This story could have been in the camping adventures forum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 12:18pm
John,

Here is how I measured ALL AC and DC currents in the rig.

AC is simple.  I just used a Fluke clamp on amp-meter at each breaker.  

For DC measurement I used a Fluke 87 (most all decent VOM meters can do this... I just happen to have lots of Fluke equipment).  What you do is pull a fuse from the 12V fuse panel and then insert the meter probes into the socket the fuse came out of.  This makes the VOM a "fuse" to complete the circuit except now you can actually measure how much DC current is flowing through the meter.

When all of the fused circuits are measured then one thing you must do.  With all of the DC fuses removed, go to the battery itself and disconnect one of the wires to the battery and then use the Amp-meter and measure the current.  I found that I had almost 3/4 amp current......WITH ALL FUSES REMOVED.  This is called "phantom" load and apparently Forest River has chosen to connect things directly to the battery without mentioning it anywhere.  Some of the load I cannot figure out.  It just taps off the +batt lead and goes under the floor and where it goes I have no idea.  

For this reason it requires either to remove a battery lead when parking the unit for any length of time or as I did install a switch AT THE BATTERY to make it easier.  In my case I brought the 180 home from the dealer and parked it for 3 days in our RV storage area until I brought it over to the house to start loading it for the trip.  First thing... DEAD BATTERY 8.7volts.  Charged the battery all day and over night while I was loading the trailer.  Battery would only take a partial charge because of the deep discharge but would come up to 11.6 volts.  Disconnected the power for the night, made sure everything was turned off and next morning.... DEAD BATTERY.  

This is what got me started trying to figure out what was going on and thus far is still a problem.  We'll see what the dealer does.  I suspect they will have it for a month or so....

This explain things for you or do you need more?  Collectively maybe we owners can solve the problem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 2:25pm
Bill, 
The smaller set of wires goes to the Zamp plug on the side of the pod at the back. You May have a very small short in this wire, Just disconnect it. Thanks for the tutorial, I have a nice Klein unit that should do the trick. I am going to play with it and learn something new!

Since i don't plan on using the zamp port for solar, ( I would just do something near the front), I disconnected it from the batteries, and re powered it (with a fuse) when i  put in the battery switch. It comes out behind the rear panel that comes off with 2 screws that covers the back of the taillight in the exterior storage compartment  and goes up to the Zamp port. I cut the wire in the storage compartment,  and have a set of switches that power under pod led lights and an led light wall mount landscape light that i just stick to the storage door magnet and plug into the Zamp port for an outdoor step light.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 4:29pm
this is outstanding!   hope to try it when we upgrade to a new 180.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 4:34pm
Thanks George,
And if you do any 180 mods we haven't seen let me know, my list is empty!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 7:35pm
I'm going to attempt the drawer project. Did you make the drawers yourself? I did see some online places that will make custom boxes. Thanks for the great idea!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 8:03pm
Westy,
I made the drawer boxes,simple 1/2" plywood sides and 1/4" bottoms.I have since changed it to twin beds but we have been on the road for three weeks and my wife decided she needs to be able to make snow angels in bed, so we are going back to revisit the queen again. But maybe with a lift out center section so we can maintain the walkway up the middle. Search "all my 180 mods" for pictures of the twin set up and more on the drawers under the mattress. Can't seem to link anything here in Capitol reef, we are boonedocking outside the park on BLM land. pods everywhere out here!.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 9:12pm
I've got the 177 so I'm limited to 32" between bathroom and kitchen. Might just do one big wide drawer.

SLO is great - my folks live there so it's on my circuit.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2017 at 9:37pm
These drawers are a great idea and they look fantastic!  I would appreciate more info / plans.
Our TV is a 2014 Honda Ridgeline and although it has 600lb hitch capacity, I am conscious about overall weight.  How much weight do you think your mod added?
We are new to RPod and were discussing ways to increase storage during our maiden outing last weekend.  We found 10" X 24" wire racks with folding legs at WalMart that fit perfectly in the shelves above the dinette and added 2X shelf space to the "pantry".

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