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    Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 12:49pm
Our Dakota usually gets between 10 and 14 mpg while towing, depending on how mountainous it is and the force of the tail/headwind.  From the from home to Sacramento, via Echo summit, we get about 12 mpg, we have about a 3000 foot climb over the summit, then it's mostly down hill from there to near sea level.  I just got D range tires (65 instead of 50 lbs inflation) and in the one short trip I took, it felt like there was noticeable reduction in rolling resistance.  But it could be wishful thinking or the placebo effect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 11:50am
In California, the state-wide speed limit for vehicles pulling trailers is 55. Because of the delta between the generic speed limit and the otherwise speed limit of 65, 70, or 75, I will usually bump it up to 57 or 58, but I'm not going to push my luck.

It's interesting to the MPG ranges people get. I suspect that most of it is due to the speeds that people drive. Our F-150 will get as good as 21-22 MPG on the freeway and not towing. When we're pulling the pod, we get between 12 and 15 MPG. 15 is we're on the freeway and it's relatively flat. 12 if there are hills and/or stop and go.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 10:54am
Originally posted by Capt Kidd

So when I am towing the RPod with my 3500 Dodge 1 ton turbo diesel I get 13 to 14 mpg at 60.  Same mileage I get when not towing.  Granted I am towing with way overkill and 4:10 gears.  I don't even know the Pod is back there.

You are on the end of the scale where you have superb towing overkill. If you hook up a Pod to a diesel tractor the fuel economy will also be the same. it really is all about torque. I'm guessing your truck has north of 450 pound-ft, at least? You truck is underwhelmed by a 2500-3000 pound R-Pod.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 10:46am
So when I am towing the RPod with my 3500 Dodge 1 ton turbo diesel I get 13 to 14 mpg at 60.  Same mileage I get when not towing.  Granted I am towing with way overkill and 4:10 gears.  I don't even know the Pod is back there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 9:24am
+1 to toolmanJohn.  Our 94 F-150 with 316,000 miles we average 10-11 mpg.  With both our '08 and '13 Explorers the average is right around 12 mpg.  Lower in the Rockies but better on the flats in the midwest.  Most importantly, I agree, the 60 mph range is our sweet spot.  Have to get used to getting passed all the time on the expressway, but, I am on vacation, I will take my time.  Better to get there a bit later than not get there at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 8:37am
Originally posted by PilotPodder

I've towed with both a Honda Pilot and a Toyota Tundra. IMO the Honda while a great SUV was not ideal as a tow vehicle. Unless the pod was empty, the tran would gear up much more frequently than I liked. Highway rated mpg is 24 on the Pilot and I usually got 10-11 mpg at 60 mph. With the Tundra, as expected, you don't really feel like you are towing anything. Highway rated mpg for the Tundra is a stellar 17 and I just averaged about 12 to and from FL with many hills in KY & TN at about 60 mph. I know that sounds abysmal, but I was pleased. 

Thumbs Up  I agree. That's actually good towing fuel economy from the Tundra and even the Pilot seems about right. No one should expect much above 10 mpg when there are hills involved. Anything above 10 mpg is just a gift.

The fast simple rule when towing with a gas non-turbo engine is to take the normal (not towing) highway fuel economy of the vehicle and divided it by TWO when towing an R-Pod. The answer will be very close to reality.

And if people try for 65+ MPH, even on flat terrain, all bets are off, and fuel economy WILL plummet and be abysmal!! I did all the experiments, and 55-60 seems to be the sweet spot, every 5 mph above that and start subtracting one mpg per each increase. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 5:37am
I've towed with both a Honda Pilot and a Toyota Tundra. IMO the Honda while a great SUV was not ideal as a tow vehicle. Unless the pod was empty, the tran would gear up much more frequently than I liked. Highway rated mpg is 24 on the Pilot and I usually got 10-11 mpg at 60 mph. With the Tundra, as expected, you don't really feel like you are towing anything. Highway rated mpg for the Tundra is a stellar 17 and I just averaged about 12 to and from FL with many hills in KY & TN at about 60 mph. I know that sounds abysmal, but I was pleased. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 2018 at 9:07am
I have only towed my from the dealer to the house. About 40 miles with very slight inclines here and there. My TV is 2004 Chevy Tahoe. I got 12.8 mpg on the tow home. I was quite happy with this number. Towed it just fine, but I knew it would. Have towed a trailer twice as heavy as the R-Pod 179 with no issues. I did not have the WDH bars installed or the anti sway. Pulled just fine with out them, but will be added because I have them and better safe than sorry. Trailer was a tad bouncy on certain parts of the road, but to be expected with a single axle trailer. WD bars should alleviate that a little. 

IMO, if you are in the market for a TV, I would go with something with a tow capacity a lot higher than the pod. Just makes life easier. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 11:10am
Made a short trip with the new Dodge Durango two days ago towing my 179.  60 mph flat level ground no winds got 15 mpg.  I am pleased.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 8:19pm
We bought a 179 last year and tow it with a 2016 Ford Explorer V6. Last September we pulled it from Illinois to Custer State Park in western South Dakota. Pulled fine and was a comfortable ride. We did use the tow/haul feature on the Explorer while in the hills. The Explorer is rated for towing 5000 lbs with factory Reese style hitch. We did not use a distribution hitch but did add an adapter that allowed the use of a sway bar. As with any vehicle, the gas mileage suffered while towing trailer but was not worse than expected - around 10 mpg in hilly areas.
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