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w.o.y
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Topic: Hot Water Problem Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 7:38pm |
OK , I decided to give it one more try before giving up because I have been thinking about the bypass suggestions mentioned in this topic . .So I folded the mattress in half and pulled that big piece of plywood up so I could stand in there and take a picture. When I saw how I had the valves set I could have kicked myself all around the block. The top red and the bottom blue lines were open but so was the upright one between the two.I closed the upright one and fired up the tank and it didn't kick out real soon as before. I am pretty sure it heated to it's normal shut off temperature before it shut down but I could not run water from the sink to test it because I had drained the fresh water tank before coming home from camping this past friday. It is a storage lot now but I am going to bring it home someday soon and put some fresh water in the tank so I can pump some hot water through a tap to double check the temperature . . While I am at it I am going to cut that big sheet of plywood down to have just the small piece above the furnace and water heater to come out easily every spring and fall while leaving the larger piece of it fastened down in place under the mattress..
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furpod
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Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 10:19pm |
As they say... "Bob's your uncle"..
Also, I promise you that you have a 2 way WH. The switch for electric heating is outside, in the WH compartment. No RPod to date has been built with a gas only WH.
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podwerkz
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Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 10:42pm |
Originally posted by w.o.y
I do not have that switch so I am assuming mine is a gas only with electronic start and has no electric element for shore hookup. |
Its possible I suppose.
Let's check something. Open the WFCO converter/distribution panel and look at your AC breakers. Is one of the 15 amp breakers labeled 'Water Heater'? (maybe W/H Main or something similar)
If so, the factory wired the camper for an electric element in the water heater. It would then make sense that you have a dual energy water heater.
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Tars Tarkas
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Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 1:11am |
It sounds like you may have figured things out.
The first photo is a little hard to read but it kind of looks like the middle valve is not perpendicular to the pipe it's on. For summer, and proper use of the WH, the two valves on the outside should open; that is turned in line, or parallel, to their pipes. The one in the middle should closed (perpendicular). If the middle valve is not totally closed, hot and cold water will mix and you'll get something less than completely hot water from the tap.
The valves are meant to be binary -- either open or closed -- but they are capable of being set somewhere in between.
The water in the WH will be totally hot. This could explain why the WH only stays on for a short time. It may only need a few minutes, or less, to heat to the point it's supposed to cut off.
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w.o.y
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Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 2:24pm |
Well , since I got the bypass problem solved I started checking into if it would work on 110V as well .Some here mentioned there is a switch in the exterior compartment.I took a picture and I still do not see a switch anywhere in there .Then I took a picture of the fuse panel and indeed , it does show a water heater breaker. So with the absence of a switch for land power , would this mean that it automatically switches from 12 V to 110 V when it is plugged into a 110 V receptacle ? ? Slowly getting to the bottom of this .
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mcarter
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Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 5:15pm |
It's on the left hand side , directly below the RESET switches, look at rear of cabinet, you will see it. BTW - not visible in your pic.
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w.o.y
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Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 6:14pm |
Originally posted by mcarter
It's on the left hand side , directly below the RESET switches, look at rear of cabinet, you will see it. BTW - not visible in your pic. |
You would not believe how many times I had looked for that switch .So I took a close up both above and below where you thought it might be to the left of the resets but it was not there. . Then I got on my hands and knees with a flashlight and did another search and low and behold I found where they hid that little black buggar. Not visible at all looking around in that compartment . Had to hold the camera on a crazy angle to get the picture . It was down lower and to the left . So I am all set now with both my bypass problem and with the switch for if I were ever to hook up to 110 V power .. Thanks to all who participated in this thread . Owners manuals never show this kind of stuff . Great bunch of helpful campers here. Much appreciated .
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Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 10:22pm |
They do work at hiding that little bugger. You can leave it turned on whether you're plugged in or not. It has no effect on the gas operation. If you ever want to inhibit the electric operation when you're plugged it's easier to flip the circuit breaker inside. BTW it's good practice to turn off the little black switch when you winterize. It makes you check in the Spring to make sure the WH is filled before you use it. FYI that black oval thing to the right of the switch covers the electric heating element. Just in case you ever have to replace it.
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Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 5:49am |
I leave the outside switch on too but I've marked and leave the WH circuit breaker off unless I'm plugged in, actually using hot water, and I know for sure that the WH is full of water. That way when I'm plugged in at home to maintain battery charge I'm not wasting energy heating water for no reason. And if you ever do accidentally run it with the WH empty you WILL be replacing the element.....
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