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    Posted: 12 Apr 2022 at 10:50am
We finished up several days of desert camping with stay at Oliver Lee State Park in south NM. We pulled into the dump station just behind a really nice Sprinter conversion setup for overlanding which had pulled in, coming from the opposite direction. A park ranger, who was at the dump site, was having a conversation with Sprinter driver and from the body language, it wasn't one of those "hey, have a great day" conversations. The Sprinter eventually pulled away without dumping and we pulled in. The ranger asked for my camp permit, and I showed him ours. 

As I dumped my tanks, he explained how he or another ranger have to station themselves at the dump site in the mornings because campers from outside the park will come and dump as well as use the showers and facilities without paying for day use, as was the case with the Sprinter. During the day, the rangers lock the dump and you need to hunt down a ranger or camp host to come unlock it which is really inconvenient if you are getting late start. He said it was really becoming a problem, especially since the pandemic. At first they allowed outside campers to freely use the dump station so that they would not dump out in dispersed camping areas nearby by, but then they had so many non-paying campers come by, that is was disruptive to campers who paid the park fee. In the evenings, when the rangers were off duty, the showers and bathrooms would be overrun by dispersed area campers nearby leaving the camp host to manage the situation. 

We have seen various forms of freeloading in our last several outings. It's almost always camper vans or cab-overs. Everyone's situation is different so we pretty much mind our own business. On one hand we're happy to see people getting out and enjoying camping and RVing, but on the other hand it does bug me when people look for a free ride at the expense of others, not only in RVing but life in general.

What are you all's thoughts about this?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote ronahue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2022 at 12:28pm
The best we can hope for is thar gas will go to $8.00 a gallon that would surely slow the freeloaders down.Wink

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Post Options Post Options   Quote GlueGuy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 10:20am
We have a nearby state park (Castle Rock State Park). They have an entrance/parking fee when you come into the park. However, many people park out on the highway to avoid paying the entrance fee, and just walk in to use the park. Invariably, the cars parked on the highway are high-end models (like BMWs, Mercedes, etc.).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jato Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 4:31pm
I have not witnessed that problem in northern Michigan but it is disturbing to hear about what you have directly witnessed nevertheless.  Unless you come 'after hours' in Michigan parks, you do not enter w/o a permit unless you are looking for a spot.  We boondock quite a bit or go to DNR or campgrounds run by the state that do not have electric or dumpsites so that is probably why we haven't seen this.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote leon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2022 at 9:39pm
This is a common problem in different countries, and I do not know what can we do to cope with it. We want to stay at the clear camp with conscious campers because we pay for that
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