Marker Lights
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Topic: Marker Lights
Posted By: David and Danette
Subject: Marker Lights
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 3:10pm
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I bought new LED marker lights for the rear of our camper. What is the best sealant to use when installing them to the fiberglass so that they will be waterproof? thank you
------------- 2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018- 2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019) 2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014) Middle Tn 2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab |
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Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 4:17pm
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I just used silicone. 25 year, anti fungal or whatever it was.. I used white, but our 2011 was white.
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Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 4:30pm
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+1 ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 5:14pm
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+2 ------------- Leo & Melissa Bachand 2017 Ford F150 2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk Previously owned 2015 Rpod 179 2010 Rpod 171 |
Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 6:02pm
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OK thank you, I will look for 25 year silicone at Lowes.
------------- 2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018- 2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019) 2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014) Middle Tn 2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 6:06pm
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I'm a contrary one, thus use 3M 5200, which I used to use as a bedding compound in my Newport 30 MkII. That stuff will still be working for your grand children. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 6:29pm
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Just forget about ever removing it if you use 5200... ------------- 1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
Posted By: Kevinscamps
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 7:42pm
| Silicone is often used wrong. Silicone works fine when sealed under something sort of like a liquid rubber gasket., but is a disaster as a caulk because its adhesive properties are crappy. Best practice is butyl putty tape under the lip of the lights, then 3m 4200 as caulk around the outside. 5200 not such a good idea around a consumable like a light that might someday need replacing. |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 9:11pm
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Regarding 3M 5200, I've never had a problem getting it off fiberglass. I used it to seal the soft plastic spoiler after the dealer did a less than workman like job installing it. Because the spoiler was so soft, it lifted even off the 5200. I cleaned it off with a razor scraper, being careful not to cut into the fiberglass and cleaned up with acetone, if I recall correctly. I agree with Kevinscamps about silicone. The butyl tape sounds like a good idea. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 1:47am
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+1 for butyl tape combined with mechanical fasteners. Conforms to surfaces, will compress into threads to help seal them, stays flexible, sticky and adheres very will but is not difficult to remove later when needed. Not messy. You can create little o-rings of it by rolling it into a little strings and placing it around fasteners. Some folks even make o-ring gaps by using a chamfer bit to open the edges of mounting holes a little. If there are no solid mechanical fasteners so the sealant also has to act as an adhesive then 5200 is probably the best bet. I'm interested in understanding the dual buytl/4200 procedure. I've always thought of both as alternative sealants so I'm curious how the combo works? ------------- 1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 6:21am
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I ordered from amazon.com the 3M 4200 white sealant. The lights are attached with two screws so what I need most is to keep the base of the lights waterproof. Thank you all for your help
------------- 2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018- 2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019) 2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014) Middle Tn 2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab |
Posted By: Happy Tripping
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 6:25am
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No one mentions yet "Dicor Lap Sealant". I did an internet search and one guy said, "It is made to cover horizontal seams and cracks ..."
Why not Dicor?
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 8:08am
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There is another Dicor product made for vertical surfaces. That is Non Sag 551LSW.
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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 9:04am
I was patching up a crack in the flimsy plastic AC cover on the roof yesterday, making a temporary repair until I can locate a new one. [Not topic drift, but context  ] When I read the additions to this post this morning, it occurred to me that you could make a gasket [just a cut out the shape of the bottom of the fixture] with Eternabond tape put it were you want your light fixture and then mount the fixture on a well attached but somewhat squishy surface. That stuff sticks like crazy and is soft enough that the fixture could be well seated into it. Seems like it wouldn't be much different from butyl rubber tape, only white on the surface. Some have said it gets a little hard in the cold, but in the coldest we have here, teens, it's still relatively pliable. So, tomorrow I start my search for the AC cover and if I run into problems will start a new topic. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 9:23am
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Not having used the Dicor Lap Sealant I would guess that it is intended to cover over top of seams so its exposed surface will skin over. The butyl is intended to be compressed in a joint and does not skin over, it stays sticky pretty much forever. Different applications. Dicor also makes a butyl tape btw. ------------- 1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 10:13am
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I was going to mention Eternabond, but lostagain beat me to it. Question about the marker lights: Are these being surface mounted to the roof panel, or are they recessed, and finally, these are not the marker lights on the spoiler?
------------- bp 2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 11:32am
Glue, ya' gotta get up pretty early to be someone from Dayton NV.  ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 12:12pm
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Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 1:12pm
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GlueGuy answering your question they are surface mounted, I am replacing the existing lights from factory. I replaced bubs in the present lights with LED but the fixtures holding the bubs have rusted beyond repair. So I am replacing the entire marker lights with LED lights. There are five of them across the back of the camper which is all fiberglass like the r-pods a one piece roof that curves down the back of the camper. I would post pictures but I haven't figured out how to do that.
------------- 2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018- 2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019) 2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014) Middle Tn 2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 3:32pm
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Glue, we're on PST as of today. Is CA going to eliminate PDT next week? My wife solved the problem with her watch. She keeps it on Colombian time, which is the same as EST. David and Danette, search the archives there are instructions for posting fotos to postimage.org. I'm a Luddite and it's even easy for me.
------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 3:41pm
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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 3:58pm
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We're now 3 hours different from Colombia than the 2 which we have during daylight "savings" time. That's more convenient for calls to family. I would like us to stay on one time system too. Just not on the half hour like they did in Venezuela. Neither fish nor fowl, not on the clock nor in the pot. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 4:04pm
Thread drift warning!....although I guess a smart attorney could probably make the case that this was pertinent to the original question because it would effect the hours that the marker lights needed to be turned on  ------------- 1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 5:09pm
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Nope. I just color outside the lines. Can't help it, I'm a contrary one. On the other hand, look how many posts I added that were on topic, though I did admittedly drift a bit at times. I was going to do the running lights and the 3 markers myself, but wasn't sure where to run the wire to the trailer roof, so I had the dealer do it without charge. In retrospect, as Marwayne says, if you want it done right, do it your self. How's that for drifting back on topic.  ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 5:16pm
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good job sir! and btw, I hate std time too, its already been dark here for well over an hour. ------------- 1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |