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Were the 2016's "lifted" from the factory?

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Topic: Were the 2016's "lifted" from the factory?
Posted By: Motor7
Subject: Were the 2016's "lifted" from the factory?
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 6:33am
Not the Hood River Edition, but us low riders East of the Mississippi. I read(somewhere) that in 2016 that the factory changed the running gear to gain extra ground clearance, but looking an my new to me Rpod which is a 2016, I am not so sure:


Are there any known measurements of the pre/post modified campers and was the frame changed, or just the axle mounts? Or am I just a dreamer and just need to order risers? 

My hitch when level sits at around 18". Or better yet, I guess I need a rear corner of camper to ground measurement when level right? Or has someone already compiled a GC measurement list over the years?


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2016 R-Pod 176T



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Posted By: michaeln
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 7:34am
My 2016 HRE 171 does not have the riser kit installed.  The tires fit close to the fenders.  But it also does not have the fan cover on the roof the HREs have, but it does have the black diamond plate on the front and it did have the silly 15" all terrain tires before I switched them out for Goodyear Endurance.

I wrote to Forest River about my not-quite-an-HRE and this is what they said:

There was one year that we did not put the axel risers on due to changing the type of axels. If you do want the risers, you can contact your nearest R Pod dealer to request them to be put on, or you can contact  mailto:surveyorparts@forestriverinc.com - surveyorparts@forestriverinc.com  to buy the parts and have a local shop weld them on for you.

 

At the time, they did not place them on due to the new axels performance.



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Avery, CA


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 8:40am
Our Midwest edition 2016 RP179 (actually built in 2015) does have the risers. Look under your RPod. The risers should be visible between the axle and the frame if they are there.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Motor7
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 10:23am
The comment I read was from a FR employee stating that changes were made to the axle and frame eliminating the need for risers since the overall height was close to riser height....but I can't find that comment now. 

I am curious, so if any of you think to grab a tape measure next time you walk by your Pod and measure to the bottom of the hitch ball socket(trailer level of course), post it up and list the year/model. 


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2016 R-Pod 176T


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 10:48am
Our 2017 RP179 HRE does not have the risers. My understanding is they changed the "clocking" on the torsion arms to achieve the height change.

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 11:09am
That is correct. On ours, the clocking of the arms (looking at it from the door side) is about 10:00. I'm not sure exactly what the clocking of the arm is on the 2017 models. I think it is more like 8:00.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 11:15am
My 2016 h180 HRE (made in 2015) did not have rizers. The axel was reclocked for the larger tires. My tires looked just like your picture, On a large bump the tires hit the fender and broke the wires to the marker lights. My local Rv guy called Forrest River and they still have rizers available for $125.

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http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS
John&Sue,SLO,CA
2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
 


Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 11:16am
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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd.




Posted By: Motor7
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 11:45am
Thanks for the pic, I know there are no risers on my Pod, so now with this new info I will look and see how the the torsion arms are clocked!

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2016 R-Pod 176T


Posted By: Motor7
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 4:54pm
Looking at the pass side hub, the torsion bar points straight back at 9:00. And correction on hitch height, it's 17" to the bottom of the ball pocket. 

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2016 R-Pod 176T


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 5:34pm
If it were lifted up to take the load off, the clocking of the arms would probably be about 8:00 if it is 9:00 under load. It sounds like you have the re-clocked axle. I would measure mine, but my driveway is not level so any measurement I take would be inaccurate.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: tcj
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 6:20pm
darnit, hit the wrong button.


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2018 R-pod 180 Hood River Edition


Posted By: tcj
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 6:24pm
Blue 180 HRE with 4inch risers between the axel and frame. Came out of the factory in April 2018 but the title says it is a 2019.

Axle is clocked at 9 oclock.  Bottom of hitch is 20.5 inches.  Yes, the frame is level.


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2018 R-pod 180 Hood River Edition


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 9:25pm
The measurement that would tell the tail is the distance between the bottom of the frame (or the top of the frame" and the ground in close proximity to the axle. The hitch measurement would only be valid if you are certain the frame is level. 

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: Motor7
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2019 at 6:07am
Originally posted by tcj

Blue 180 HRE with 4inch risers between the axel and frame. Came out of the factory in April 2018 but the title says it is a 2019.

Axle is clocked at 9 oclock.  Bottom of hitch is 20.5 inches

I pulled into that gas station in my pic above about 15 min after buying the Pod....yep drug the hitch and I even went slow and took the driveway at an angle. Right then I suspected I might need risers and your measurement pretty much confirms that.....thanks. 

GC, I hear ya...but I thought 'everyone' puts leveling bubbles on the hitch plate like meLOL


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2016 R-Pod 176T


Posted By: Motor7
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2019 at 6:16am
I found this sticker on the axle. Can anyone tell me if it is Lippert or Dexter:


Sorry, the pic resized a little small. The numbers are :

V000318009

RPO-045-E13787

I don't get a hit on google with either number.........

Edit: I think I am looking t the wrong sticker. This one is on the end of the axle and the main one should be in the middle.....I'll check again. 

 



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2016 R-Pod 176T


Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 1:29pm
Putting risers on won't help the hitch dragging that height is determined by your hitch ball

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http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS
John&Sue,SLO,CA
2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
 


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 2:09pm
But if the height of the RPod is raised, then it is likely the hitch ball can be set higher also which would mean the hitch would be less likely to drag.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by StephenH

But if the height of the RPod is raised, then it is likely the hitch ball can be set higher also which would mean the hitch would be less likely to drag.
Yah. You would want the pod to be close to level, so you would set the ball on the TV to match the level of the hitch on the TT; whatever height that is.

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 4:30pm
Level with lifted vs. not lifted still would be higher with the lifted. That is what I was trying to say.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 7:31pm
I think I was agreeing with you. Sometimes I jump too far ahead or something...



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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 9:13pm
Okay. I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Thanks for clarifying. Smile

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS



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