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Topic: The blow out trip
Posted By: Tomtreas
Subject: The blow out trip
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 11:31pm
On a recent outing on really the first hot day of the year, I blew my left tire on my 178 after only about 50 miles.  Both were checked before leaving.  I replaced that one and 10 miles up the road they have 1 in stock, so I was back on the road without the spare.  Then about 40 miles from our destination on the same day, the right one let go.  I limped into my campsite at reduced speed and got a match for the first tire the next day.

Thing is and long story short, when the tread came off of each tire, it ripped the fenders off of the camper on each side.  Not all of the screws were ripped out of the camper, but some were.  The wires for the clearance lights that were on each fender were just ripped out of their splices.  I have received new fenders from FR and also found the stock factory clearance markers online and have those as well.  On my trip to Menards and or Lowes to pick up the necessary screws and grommets that I know that I need for this project, does anyone have any recommendations for the following:

a) brand and/or size of double stick tape to attach the fender to the camper. It looks like the factory may have used something that was light colored or white and maybe 1/2" wide around the flat side of the fender.

b) suggestions for something to fill the holes on the size of the camper where the screws were ripped out before I apply the fender with the tape to the side of the camper. 

c) does anyone know if the entire arc behind the fender is a solid piece of wood?  If so I could add a couple of extra self-drilling screws beside where the ones were ripped out.

The screws used to attach the original fender were self-drilling.  I think I was able to remove gracefully 3 or 4 per side. The fenders have pre-drilled holes in them so I need to make sure there is something behind it to hold it and any holes are closed up that don't get screws. =)

Thanks in advance!




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Posted By: jimandclare
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 7:41am
I share your pain.

Heading home last summer we had a "china bomb" tire blow out and take out not only the fender but also the grab bar by the door.  Our tires had about 7000 miles on them.  Fully 80% of the of the tread peeled off of the tire.

There was no double sided tape on our trailer so I cant speak to that.

I filled the holes with butyl rubber chaulk which seemed to work just fine and mounted the new fender with stainless steel self drilling screws.

And yes, there is a a wood panel behind the fiberglass so adding additional screws shouldn't be any problem when mounting the new fender.




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Jim & Clare
2016 R-pod 178
2014 Ford Edge


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 7:59am
Double sided tape is really pressure sensitive adhesive tape. The type with the most history behind it is VHB from 3M. The problem is that you have a large area to apply pressure to to get the tape adhesive to kick so I wouldn't use it for this application because the surface area is too large to get much pressure on it.  I suspect they use it at the factory just to temporarily hold the fenders in place to speed up production. 

Since you aren't trying to save every second repairing this and can hold the fender where you want to while installing the new fasteners, I'd suggest a good quality polyurethane adhesive like 3M 5200. Apply that also to the old screw holes as sealant. Use SS screws and new hole locations. The trailer walls are an inch thick so don't use screws longer than that. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 9:50am
Maybe you could use a larger diameter screw in the existing holes with a little bit of loc-tite. That will seal them up and probably do the job. You can ad a couple more if it seems to need more. 
BTW any chance you can share brand that blew out. It would be good if we can keep track of brands that are known to fail. 


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2017.5 Rp-172
2020 R-pod 195
2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl
I'll be rpodding


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 9:54am
You could also fill the existing holes with a little epoxy mixed with flocked cotton (or just little snips from some cotton fabric; the smaller the better). This will make a filling that is similar to wood, but stronger. Then drill the filled parts enough to get the new screws into the same spots.

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 10:04am
Originally posted by mjlrpod

 
BTW any chance you can share brand that blew out. It would be good if we can keep track of brands that are known to fail. 

Ridgeway Sport ST Power Touring ST205-75R14 Load range C

I could be wrong but it is my belief that these are factory tires as the spare is also this same tire. I noticed when I removed to use the spare that the extrusion nibs were still sticking out so concluded that before this trip that the spare had never hit the ground.


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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 10:31am
Originally posted by jimandclare

I share your pain.

Heading home last summer we had a "china bomb" tire blow out and take out not only the fender but also the grab bar by the door.  Our tires had about 7000 miles on them.  Fully 80% of the of the tread peeled off of the tire.

I had some damage to the grab bar foam, but not the bar itself.  Zooming in your photo, it almost looks like the same brand of tire?  See my other post below.


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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 11:10am
If I remember correctly from the days I defended some tire manufacturers, on a radial tire, the tread separation you see in the photo is the "normal" mode of failure.  As the tire fails, air enters the space between the tread and the plies of rubber coated fabric to which it is bonded. It is not uncommon for the tire to sustain damage unknown to the user which eventually allows air to seep into the body of the tire.  Some times, the quality of manufacturing results in incomplete bonding of the tread and with heat, it creates an increasingly big separation of the tread until failure occurs.

I agree with GlueGuy, the best option for the holes is repairing them with epoxy filler with cotton.  You can buy this sort of thing at any good marine supply, but with the small amount you need, just some regular epoxy glue and cotton dust or fiber would be fine.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 11:27am
Originally posted by lostagain

I agree with GlueGuy, the best option for the holes is repairing them with epoxy filler with cotton.  You can buy this sort of thing at any good marine supply, but with the small amount you need, just some regular epoxy glue and cotton dust or fiber would be fine.

Thanks for that.  The holes in question are just larger than the threads from the original screw.  There is some flaking at the outer edge where it pulled out but I'm thinking I can fill all of that in, let it set up, and then as GlueGuy said, drill some pilot holes the size of the screw shank and let the threads catch.  Should make for a good tight fit. 

in continued thinking about this I'm wondering if I were to actually use the glue to bond the fender to the camper though, if I suffered a similar "china bomb" as I am seeing this is called if it wouldn't actually result in more damage if it ripped the fender off than just sticking it up there like the factory did to hold it in place with the double stick tape?  Opinions?


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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 12:01pm
Tomtreas, I suggest when you put the new screws in, use a bedding compound caulk in the screw holes.  It seals them and helps bond the screw to the sides of the hole a little.  On my boat I used 3M 5200, but there are plenty of similar bedding caulks on the market.

Personally, I would not use a very strong glue to fasten the fenders in addition to the screws.  If you have another tire failure, the tread is going to come off and hit the fender, probably taking it off too.  If you have a strong glue bond, your fiberglass repairs may involve much more than just filling some stripped out screw holes.  It is very hard to see internal damage to a tire, and even harder to detect defects in manufacturing.  The best thing buy tires from reputable manufactures who have good quality control.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 1:02pm
You might also want to step up to a load range D (LRD) tire. LRD will inflate to a higher pressure and impart a bit more harsh ride, but they will also run a lot cooler. Goodyear Endurance are a good choice (but there are others as well).

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 1:04pm
I don’t agree. I would attach the fenders as well as possible, using good adhesive and using fresh screw holes. Why plan on having the fenders come off and why try to reuse damaged holes? I also don’t buy the “China bomb” theory. I place the fault on FR for mounting marginally rated tires on their trailers. Get ST tires, load range d, and keep them properly inflated. If you like, buy American, of course that’s fine. I’m personally running Chinese 15 inch LRD’s with 2500 lb ratings. my $0.02.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by offgrid

I don’t agree. I would attach the fenders as well as possible, using good adhesive and using fresh screw holes. Why plan on having the fenders come off and why try to reuse damaged holes? I also don’t buy the “China bomb” theory. I place the fault on FR for mounting marginally rated tires on their trailers. Get ST tires, load range d, and keep them properly inflated. If you like, buy American, of course that’s fine. I’m personally running Chinese 15 inch LRD’s with 2500 lb ratings. my $0.02.

I've considered lifting this one at some point and upgrading to 15" tires... but small steps. =)  Thanks!  The Summits I have on it now are better tires than what was still on it. 


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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 1:43pm
When considering the screw holes, bear in mind that the only part of the wall that offers screw withdrawal resistance is the thin skin of the wall interacting with the thread of the screw.  The styrofoam behind the skin doesn't do much.  Either filling the hole with epoxy or going to a slightly larger screw will do pretty much the same thing.  As for gluing the fenders on, with a very strong adhesive, it's not likely that any adhesive or adhesive tape is strong enough to resist the impact force of a failing tire.  But, peeling off the adhesive from the gelcoat may not be very good for it.  You may have some extensive fiberglass repairs that are much more complicated than simply putting in new screws, filling, or drilling.  Maybe having "break away" fenders may cause less costly repairs than pulling off a big chunk of fiberglass or gelcoat.  

+1 to load range D tires to minimize the risk of a blow out.  Heat is the enemy of tires.  A load range D tire, due to its 8 ply construction, is not only more resistant to deflection causing heat, it is also more impact resistant, thus reducing the risk of a tire bruise.




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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 2:26pm
lostagain, perhaps we just have different philosophies. If a tire fails all kinds of bad things can happen that are much worse than fenders coming off, and a loose fender on the roadway could harm someone else. I don't want them to come off, ever. Plus I don't mind fixing something, but having fixed it I don't want to ever have to do it a second time, I quickly run out of patience for that kind of thing. Its a personal choice I think. 

Your raise a good point about backing for the screws. I would just move them over an inch or so, but if that put them somewhere with no backing then I'd certainly agree with you on using the same holes. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 2:50pm
OG, no glue or screw is going to hold a fender on in a serious tire failure.  

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 3:22pm
5200 develops almost 400 psi shear strength on gelcoat, and has 700 tensile. Fantastic stuff. As you know, they hold keels on sailboats with it. As you suggest the rpod sheathing will almost certainly separate from the frame first. Most likely the fender will stay attached and get knocked away from the flapping tire tread. You'll have a flopping sidewall with a fender stuck to it when you stop. 

I've gone one larger wheel size and one load rating higher than FR put on their trailers. I would also give the fender every chance I could to stay attached, rather than plan for it to fail and hit the guy following me. Belt and suspenders.  

That's me. Other solutions are fine too. Its really OK to disagree on this, there is no right or wrong answer. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: jimandclare
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 3:51pm
Regarding the mounting of a replacement fender, below is a screen capture of a Youtube video of an rpod factory tour showing the plywood panel in the side wall where the fenders are mounted.





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Jim & Clare
2016 R-pod 178
2014 Ford Edge


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 6:24pm

What was the date code on your old tires, do you know?  Mine are about the same age built 28th week of '15 and look perfect.  How heavy do you run, what pressure? 
Almost answering my own question, I think I should replace my tires, now. 
Is there any profit in going to a Load Range D tire?  There isn't much extra load capacity in those tires (1760 lbs each).




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John
'16 R-Pod 180


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 7:33pm
Yes, load range D for sure. Some folks go to LRE's,  but sidewalls on E's are really stiff so you can potentially cause cause vibration damage to the trailer. Inflate the D's to their rated pressure. 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Andyrpod190
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 6:56am
Since I am getting my new RPOD 190 this month.... sounds like first order to prevent blow outs is o replace the 2 factory tires.

Anyone know the size of the tires on it so I can order either ST or Goodyear Endurance Load range 'D'?

Also is everyone comfortable with 'Harsh Ride' associated with load range D and that it will NOT cause any issues with camper?

Thanks!

Andy


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AC


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 7:52am
Goodyear Endurance are ST tires. There are many options. Re being comfortable that D's won't cause too harsh a ride, the ride will be stiffer than with C's. But the C's just don't provide much margin in their load rating. E's are stiffer yet, but some think that those are overkill. It's a personal choice.

I'm not sure what wheels are coming on the new trailers at this point, and they used to use different sizes in the West and East so unless someone here knows for sure I'd suggest you look at what's actually on your trailer before you buy new tires.

Wheels have load ratings too, you're only as good as your weakest link. I had 14 inch wheels and replaced them with 15 inch wheels with a higher load rating with pre-mounted LRD tires I ordered online. Counting the savings from not having to have the new tires mounted locally and what I got for the old 14 inch wheels and tires on Craigslist I basically got the new larger wheels for free, and no trip to the tire shop required. In case you're interested this is what I bought. 

https://www.easternmarine.com/loadstarr-st225-75r-15-radial-tire-aluminum-5-star-rim-lrd - https://www.easternmarine.com/loadstarr-st225-75r-15-radial-tire-aluminum-5-star-rim-lrd


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 10:31am
Where do I find wheel load ratings?  

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John
'16 R-Pod 180


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 10:45am
Should be listed in the wheel online catalogs, otherwise you can call and ask. For example:

https://www.easternmarine.com/mag-aluminum-trailer-wheels - https://www.easternmarine.com/mag-aluminum-trailer-wheels


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 11:16am
That is the first place I've ever seen wheel load ratings.  I have looked at them for my car and SUV.  I ended up finding a set of the larger diameter OEM wheels from the premium trim and quit looking.  I had hoped there was a code on the wheel.   

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John
'16 R-Pod 180


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 11:23am
I think it’s probably safe to assume that the wheels that came with the trailer aren’t rated much higher than the OEM tires, if at all. Why would they be?

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 1:09pm
I read somewhere in this forum where someone used regular splices to put back together the wiring that got ripped out of the existing splices and then just put some silicone around them, but I'd like to get as close back to factory as possible.  Does anyone know where to get the gel filled splices that FR uses for these?

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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 1:11pm
Only 'cause you couldn't buy something lighter?  :-)




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John
'16 R-Pod 180


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by Tomtreas

I read somewhere in this forum where someone used regular splices to put back together the wiring that got ripped out of the existing splices and then just put some silicone around them, but I'd like to get as close back to factory as possible.  Does anyone know where to get the gel filled splices that FR uses for these?

I would use something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Connectors-Eventronic-Waterproof-Automotive-Electrical/dp/B071L6VDLK - https://www.amazon.com/Connectors-Eventronic-Waterproof-Automotive-Electrical/dp/B071L6VDLK


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by Colt

Only 'cause you couldn't buy something lighter?  :-)



LOL Since the axles are rated at 3500, wheel and tire ratings higher than 1750 are going to be viewed as a waste of money from FR's perspective. Never mind that the axles seem to fail pretty gracefully (by becoming decambered) but a blown tire is a very serious problem if it happens at the wrong moment....


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 4:26pm
https://www.parts-express.com/express-seal-(16-14)-weatherproof-butt-splice-connector-10-pcs--095-912   ?

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John
'16 R-Pod 180


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by Colt

Only 'cause you couldn't buy something lighter?  :-)

Touche Colt!  In fact I sold a 13' Scamp and bought this R-Pod.  I"m not sorry I did that and knew there would be other challenges.  I moved further forward just today as I drove to a CAT scale and weighed everything in.  I am in fact within my limits for everything tho maybe just a little light on the tongue actually for better stability.  I did have about a 2/3 full fresh water tank when I weighed which is not out of the question for our weekend trips.  I'll be doing a little bit of moving from the back to the front for our standard transport load from here on.  If I stick with the tires I have, I'll likely be just changing out the tires on a fairly regular basis now just as preventative maintenance.  When I decide to replace them next will be when I decide if I am going all in for the lift kit and the larger rims/tires, or just doing a load range D 14" for the next run.

Thanks to everyone for all of the feedback and guidance. I couldn't seem to find any 3M 5200 anywhere locally so as usual I fell back to Amazon and just got the email that it shipped.  With any luck, I should have all of the repairs done by the time we pull out for an overnight on Saturday.


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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 9:51pm
Originally posted by Colt

https://www.parts-express.com/express-seal-(16-14)-weatherproof-butt-splice-connector-10-pcs--095-912   ?

No not exactly.  I have some like these in my normal stock actually.  The factory ones looked like this and the wires all enter the same side and you would use basically a normal set of pliers to make the connection, strip the wires and seal the whole deal.

Update: well I can't find the photo I took.  It looks a lot like the scotch lock connectors the phone company used to use back in the day but larger and for larger wire.  I'll look for a photo and post it as soon as I can locate it.  Update X2: Found the picture I was looking for, which ain't great.  Maybe post another better one tomorrow. 





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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 5:44am
Hard to tell what that is but it looks like a wet location wirenut. Those are used for home wiring in wet locations and are gel filled. You can get them  at your local big box. I wouldn't use those though on a vehicle because they are twisted on and the vibration could work them loose. Just because FR uses something that doesn't mean its the best approach. They use a lot of "insulation displacement" connectors and those are terrible.  They save them time in the factory, that's why they use them.

Properly installed heat shrink adhesive filled butt splices are a better solution. Just be sure they are crimped  correctly before you heat them. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Woodmiester
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 2:30pm
If you have the 16 inch rims , I would certainly consider a light truck tire.

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Swampfox


Posted By: Toyanvil
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 2:42pm
I am replacing my 178 Hood River Edition with these tomorrow, very close to the same specs as stock.  
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/falken-wildpeak-a-t3w/p/26501
http://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/falken-wildpeak-a-t3w/p/26501 - http://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/falken-wildpeak-a-t3w/p/26501



Posted By: poston
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by Toyanvil

I am replacing my 178 Hood River Edition with these tomorrow, very close to the same specs as stock.   http://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/falken-wildpeak-a-t3w/p/26501 - http://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/falken-wildpeak-a-t3w/p/26501

Load rating seems a little low Big smile




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Jim
Virginia City, Nevada
2016 R-pod 180
2015 Nissan Xterra Pro-4X


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by jimandclare

Regarding the mounting of a replacement fender, below is a screen capture of a Youtube video of an rpod factory tour showing the plywood panel in the side wall where the fenders are mounted.




Thank you I am so glad you posted this.  I just went out and tried to size up the new fenders to the old mounting area and they do not match.  If I put the front and rear edges of the replacement fenders even with the bottom edge of the camper floor, the apex sticks up a good 1.5 inches above where you can clearly see the old one was mounted.  I"m guessing that it is no going to make that much difference since it looks like there is plenty of wood behind the entire area and the apex is still about 3 inches under the bottom of the slider.  On the door size, I will just put the fender between the two rails for the r-dome skirt and that's where it will mount.  It is centered on the tire at that point.  Bottom line is this.  I just need to fill the old holes as for the most part I will be making new ones for the new fenders. =)



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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by jimandclare

Regarding the mounting of a replacement fender, below is a screen capture of a Youtube video of an rpod factory tour showing the plywood panel in the side wall where the fenders are mounted.

It looks like I'll be making new holes as the fenders they sent me are a little taller than the ones that came off of my 2016 RP178.  Not so much so that I will be off-wood but new holes will be better.  I'm guessing I can fill the old holes with the 3M 5200 and be fine with just that?  I planned on putting some on the threads when I ran in the new screws but I'm not sure I need that since the holes will be fresh also.  


Well Hmmmm.  I have a 3rd photo to post.  It shows up in my file manager after having uploaded it like 5 times and not seeing it in the left side of the add image dialog, but it doesn't show up in the add image dialog... so I don't know what to do to get it here.





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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 4:39pm
Sure, if you just run a bead of 5200 over the mating surface that should seal the holes fine. Clean things up first of course. That fender isn’t coming off after that, not without taking the Fiberglas with it anyway...

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by offgrid

Sure, if you just run a bead of 5200 over the mating surface that should seal the holes fine. Clean things up first of course. That fender isn’t coming off after that, not without taking the Fiberglas with it anyway...

I get that from your post earlier about the binding strength of the compound however, as I stated, the old holes don't match up with the new fender as also seen in the photos I sent (and one that I couldn't seem to get posted).  My question was more pointed toward if I could just use that as a hole filler without the fender mating to it.  I've decided that my fender will be held with screws and the double stick tape to hold it in place while I put the screws in, just like at the factory.  Will I be more diligent about making sure my tires are good?  Of course, but if the worst should happen again, I really don't want to replace a large hunk of my camper wall.  This particular blow out trip only has ended up costing me about $300 in tires and replacement hardware and fenders and such.  I would have had to dip into my comprehensive deductible had there been more damage to the sides of the camper than there were.



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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 6:47pm
Got it. If you’re not using the 5200 as adhesive I’d use something else as a sealant. It’s going to be concealed by the fender right? If so you and you don’t really want it to stick things together, just something simple like butyl caulk will do.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Tomtreas
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by offgrid

It’s going to be concealed by the fender right?

That is correct.


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Tom B in MO USA
2016 RP178
2008 Xterra


Posted By: Eubank44
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 3:31pm
Thought I would join in. Decided to pull my 171 from central Kentucky to Michigan last summer. AC cover came  partially off as I was going through Indy. Pulled in to a Lowes and secured top. About 30 miles north of Indy I blew left tire, partially removing fender and lights. Put on spare tire and pulled to a Love's about 5 miles up road. Spent night there and returned to Indy and had two new tires installed. Decided to not wait for 3rd event and returned home. Straightened and installed fender and lights and repaired AC cover with FLexGlue caulk reinforced with ss washers. I use stainless screws on everything. Indianapolis Lowes and Loves very helpful could not have been nicer.



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