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Topic: Tractors and Hobby Farming
Posted By: offgrid
Subject: Tractors and Hobby Farming
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 6:47am
OK, so I bought the farm. Well, hobby farm but I never had more than a 5 acre suburban lot with a couple of horses and a riding mower before. 

24 acres, about half pasture, half wooded, mix of pines and hardwoods. Lots of wildlife, saw a bear yesterday. Neighbors claim to have seen a panther recently (what you westerners would call a mtn lion). 

Its a SW VA mountain farm so some pretty steep slopes, up to around 30 percent, possibly higher in some spots I haven't identified yet. Couple of springs and a creek on it, small barn, 3 horse run in, about 1000 ft gravel driveway. 2500 ft elev so there can be significant winter snow (not last year).

Tractor uses: mowing. plowing, scraping and leveling driveway. Maintaining trails in woods. Hauling and splitting firewood. Maybe tilling a garden area. Maintaining fencing. Previous owner had an old Ford 8N and brush hogged with it, scared me what he was doing with that thing on those hills. 

I know I want a ROPs and power steering. Ag tires, fluid filled, set wide as possible. Low gearing for tight areas and because I'm a tractor newbie and I don't know where all the holes and stumps are yet. Not certain beyond that whether to get a compact utility tractor with 4wd and a loader or a 2wd utility tractor. I'll need a brush hog, box scraper and blade, and a carry all for the 3 pt unless I get a loader tractor. Tiller, auger, and splitter?

Wife will be getting a horse or two (done that before, her thing not mine). Not sure yet on other livestock, thinking maybe some sheep, maybe bee keeping.  But not sure about the whole panther and bear thing. 

Thoughts? 






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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold



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Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 8:08am
Hey Oliver! Say 'HI' to Lisa and Eb!

How's Arnold the pig?

LOL




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Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 8:27am
    Sounds like you are close to being Off Grid with 24 acres of peace and quiet. With bears you will need to keep your garbage containers protected they have a good sense of smell! You will stay busy maintaining your property but sounds like you are going to have a great time and will enjoy living there.

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Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 9:02am

Congratulations on your purchase-sounds like part of a long term plan.

I have owned 3 tractors and give a little bit of personal advice based on my usage-which is different from what you may need.

 

It sounds like you need a 4 wheel drive tractor for the steepness you describe.  There are lots of manufacturers that offer these in the 30-40hp range. Most have dual range transmissions (hi and low) with 3-5 gears in each range.  So, low gearing is almost always available. A tractor this size should do everything you listed. Whether you can find a good used one is always a question.

 

Some tractors have 2speed PTO’s-engine speed and ground speed. This is desirable over a single speed PTO. Also, being able to reverse the PTO is essential if you use an auger. Otherwise, the auger can only go down and not up.  I once screwed my tractor into the ground with the front wheels about 2’ off the ground. What a fiasco!! Make sure the auger and/or tractor can reverse the action before you start digging holes.

 

I use a 5’ scraper blade that has multiple adjustments to grade our long gravel drive.  It can slide left to right  about 2’, can be adjusted up or down on each end and can change the vertical angle to scrape or cut.  It is more versatile and lighter than a box blade.

 

I use a boom pole for moving logs before I cut them to length.  I also have an independent hydraulic log splitter.  I think this is easier to work with than hooking one onto the tractor.  Having it independent allows you to use the tractor, move logs, etc while the splitter is still in the wood lot.  Hooking up the splitter to the tractor requires more time, effort and the tractor must have rear hydraulic connections and a pump.

 

I don’t know anything about tilling or plowing-good luck with that.

 

I use a bush hog that is about 1’ wider than the rear tire width. Anything larger gets bulky and cumbersome.

 

Don’t know anything about front end loaders except they require more hydraulics.  A friend has one and his wife has horses.  He uses the front end loader to move manure and hay bales.

 

Older tractors are relatively easy for routine maintenance . Newer tractors have a lot of advantages, but are more complex in the wiring and hydraulics and will cost more $$$. I have owned my 1963 Massey Ferguson 35 for over 30 years and it has served me well. I have done all of the maintenance, rebuilt the carb and fuel systems, repainted it and kept it stored in my barn.  These old tractors are pretty much bullet proof if you take care of them and do the maintenance.  However, I also know people with newer Kubota and John Deere’s that love them and depend on them.  Sometimes the decision comes down to what’s locally available at the time.

 

Good luck with your search and your new adventure

Vann

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Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 10:21am
Other than size, HP, 2WD vs 4WD, and choice of accessories, one big choice is the transmission. HST (hydrostatic) is better for close-in work, backhoes, bucket work, mowing around obstacles, blading snow, lifting, etc...but a manual gearbox is better and more efficient for tilling, plowing, and mowing LOTS of acreage in mostly straight lines. 

Big choice and it will affect your use of the tractor from now on. 

Also, make sure the ROPS is foldable....most newer ones are.

Most of the newer utility compact and sub-compact tractors are made from a variety of parts from all over the world, although they might be assembled in the USA....maybe.

Don't be surprised to see engines and various other components that are made in Korea, China, Japan, India, Mexico, Canada, etc etc.






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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 10:28am
If you do not have them already, consider purchasing bear-resistant trash cans. This is one example.   http://www.kodiak-products.com/ - http://www.kodiak-products.com/

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Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 10:45am
SW Virginia? Are you a Hokie? Very pretty country.

I was doing some window shopping recently and came across this. It's a sub-compact comparison, but I thought it was a pretty good comparison between green and orange paint.

Personally, I would buy used. Neighbor lets me borrow their diesel Kabota if I need to use a bucket. It is fun!

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Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 10:58am
Yeah and if you have a hole drilled in the bucket near the lip, right in the middle, you can install a hitch ball when needed and move your r-pod, or any small trailer, exactly where you need it!

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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 4:37pm
Our Kubota is going on 22 years old. It has held up well. 4WD, hydrostatic drive. I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would get direct drive. We have a front end loader, brush hog, and a box blade. We have toyed with the notion of a backhoe, but at $7500 and very rare use situations, we opted out.





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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 7:42pm
Originally posted by Pod People

Older tractors are relatively easy for routine maintenance . Newer tractors have a lot of advantages, but are more complex in the wiring and hydraulics and will cost more $$$. I have owned my 1963 Massey Ferguson 35 for over 30 years and it has served me well. I have done all of the maintenance, rebuilt the carb and fuel systems, repainted it and kept it stored in my barn.  These old tractors are pretty much bullet proof if you take care of them and do the maintenance.  However, I also know people with newer Kubota and John Deere’s that love them and depend on them.  Sometimes the decision comes down to what’s locally available at the time.


I have exactly the same MF 35.  Had it for about 30 years too.  It's been great on my 47 acres of Middle Tennessee hill land.  I use it for bushhogging, driveway maintenance, skidding firewood mostly, a few other things from time to time. 

Just about all the advice I've seen here has been spot on.  I disagree about a reversible PTO for post-hole digging though.  I've been drilling holes for 50 years without a reversible PTO.  I have gotten stuck a time or two, but between the hydraulic lift and rocking the tractor back and forth, I've always gotten unstuck.  The trick is dig a bit, pull the posthole digger up, dig a little more.  But, I suppose depending on the ground you have, it's mostly a theoretical problem.  A reversible PTO would be nice, but I wouldn't pay extra for it or not get a tractor because it didn't have it.

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 7:49pm
Also an old MF guy, last one I had was with a Sherman tank trans. It was a 50s model.

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2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 8:17am
Wow, lots of good info here. I’ve looked at the tractor forums of course, but those tend to be divided by brand so you only get green options on the JD pages and orange lovers on the Kubota sites, etc.

Podwerks, you have the wrong sitcom. Since I’m only 25 country miles from Mt Airy, the model for Mayberry, it should be Andy, Opie, Gomer, Barney, and aunt Bee 😜

I’m not a Hokie, I have a brass rat from a nerdy place a bit further north. But I’ve worked with and hired several Hokies and been impressed by their education . So Blacksburg amenities did play into the selection process. We also wanted to get some cooler weather by gaining elevation while not being too far north and having those short winter days. Nice 4 season climate here but all are fairly moderate. Good growing economic region (at least it was...). Our long term plan is to live out here till we get too old, then hand it off to the kids and move over to suburban Blacksburg/Christiansburg, then to the very nice assisted living my dad is in, then try hard to check out before winding up in a nursing home...😝

I did a little more surveying, a few slopes are about 35% (19-20 degrees). That just looks scary. No significantly flatter spot at the top and to turn either. Not sure how the old guy mowed that with the old Ford 8N but he did...

I’ll respond with some follow up questions when I get back to somewhere with better data service...

Thanks!





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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Olddawgsrule
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 4:48pm
This hits were you and I are in common. Then those areas we are not.. Life Dude!

I'm doing somewhat the same here, but... smaller.. only 3.5 acres... interesting terrain, though south exposure. Using what I have to make the impossible (by others) happen.. My life as it exists and happy with it.

I'm watching deeply for a strong/smaller style front loader. Those I have used, I've not better by, ya means a little hand work at spots, but what has not... Bang for the dollar??? You decide.. 

Sorry, but will not mention the one I'm looking for until I get it... You're within my driving range to get one.. Just think 'front-loader' a bit.. 

Safe Travels!


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2017 Tacoma
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2004 F150 My Overlander


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 6:41pm
OK, back "on grid" so to speak. Going to need sat internet at the new place I think..,

So great suggestions here, thanks all for sharing your perspectives.

GlueGuy,I hear ya on the 100% slopes in the SC mountains. Folks from the East don't realize how steeply CA rises from from the coast. On your Kubota's inclinometer,  what do you have your yellow tilt range set at? Is that for sideways travel or up and down? It's been suggested that I get a utility tractor and not a compact tractor for the work I need to do, 12 acres is considered a lot for a compact to manage here in VA. How much mowing do you do with yours? What benefits do you find compelling with HST over gear drive? 

Pod people. that is good advice about the scraper blade vs the box blade. The box blade seems to be better for spreading gravel, the scraper for grooming. Of the two, you're not the first to suggest the scrape blade. Its also good for plowing snow I gather. Getting the auger stuck in the ground, wow. I'd never heard of a reversible PTO before. Have to look into that. I agree on older tractors maintenance wize, especially compared to the newer Tier V diesels that have all the particulate emissions systems.  If yous stay below I think 25 hp then tier V doesn't apply but that would limit me to around a 4 ft brush hog probably on my hills. It might get pretty tedious mowing 12+ acres. Anyhow, an older machine won't have those issues and will be less expensive. 

podwerks, you're right the more recent tractors are sourced around the world, with AGCO in particular it seems hard to even figure our where the machines come from. Because of all the mowing I'm leaning toward old school gear drive if I don't get a loader tractor for the reasons you suggest. There is a thing called shuttle shift which I guess gives you fwd/rev synchro on a geared tractor. I drove one compact utility loader tractor with is and it seemed like it might make the close in work easier without having the hydro drive inefficiency mowing. Might be the best compromise if I can find the right machine?  

TT, Pod people, mcarter, three old MF fans, who would have guessed? Pod People, that's a great looking machine.  I really liked the one I drove too, 'cept for the steering. Must keep all three of you in shape. The later model MF240 I tried seemed like a good fit for me, unless I decided to get a loader, in which case the lack of 4wd is an issue.

So here's the question, I can probably afford either a well used compact utility 4wd tractor with a loader, or an older  utility 2wd tractor, possibly also with a loader if I'm lucky. What do you all recommend, considering that the loader will have lots of practical uses but most of my seat hour will be mowing my hills? 

StephenH, good idea about the garbage cams. The previous owners just left regular cans and said the bears never came that close to the house. Apparently there are at least 4 in the immediate area according to the neighbors. 

Olddawgsrule, no worries, I"m  not going all he way to New England to buy a tractor, and I'm not in a huge rush to buy one anyhow, not even being sure yet what I want/need...God luck on your purchase!


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by offgrid

StephenH, good idea about the garbage cams. The previous owners just left regular cans and said the bears never came that close to the house. Apparently there are at least 4 in the immediate area according to the neighbors.


When we moved here 30 years ago a neighbor warned me about bears and a naked indian.  I've never seen either, although, there was a bear spotted on a game camera in the other end of the county last winter.  First known bear in the area since not long after Davey Crockett's time.  You're more in bear country.  Not tempting bears on purpose or in ignorance is the best practice for you and the bears.  I have some experience with them in the Smokies. 

Garbage cams might be really interesting for bears but I thought Stephen said garbage cans.

TT


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2010 176
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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 8:27pm
Ha ha. I hate spell checker sometimes...

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 9:45pm
If you need to mow even half of 25 acres, 12 acres or so, you should consider something like a Toro Groundsmaster....they can be had used for not a huge amount of money. Assuming your pastures are relatively smooth and mostly all grassy. 

Of course if the terrain is difficult, rough, stepped, heavily contoured, or there is a lot of weeds and brush, then....nevermind....


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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 5:40am
Yeah, it isn't 12 acres of manicured lawn, that's for sure.....

I've toyed with the idea of getting a UTV and a tow behind weed and brush mower rather than a tractor. That would have the advantage of having a lower center of gravity (smaller wheels) and the UTV would be convenient for other uses. and for my wife to carry stuff around in. But those tow behind cutters are generally only about 4 ft for trail mowing which would take forever and likely not hold up long. Probably by the time the pastures were cut I'd have to start over.....


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Olddawgsrule
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 10:00am
Originally posted by offgrid

OK, back "on grid" so to speak. Going to need sat internet at the new place I think..,


Olddawgsrule, no worries, I"m  not going all he way to New England to buy a tractor, and I'm not in a huge rush to buy one anyhow, not even being sure yet what I want/need...God luck on your purchase!

I'm assuming you have already done a tower search and find them to far for a Yagi & Booster.

Ha, you're within my drive possibility for the right deal! You're smart enough to work out what the requirements are for you. Best of in your research!


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2004 F150 My Overlander


Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 10:02am

Seems like, as always, there are too many choices and options and it’s hard to actually compare them because they are so divergent.

I may be repeating myself from the earlier posts-but here is what I think:

 

I do know that most of the later model (’65 on) tractors had power steering available-some standard, some as an option. So that requirement can go either way-newer compact or older small farm tractor.

 

My tractor is gas, so I have no experience with diesel.  I can’t address the advantages or disadvantages.

 

The reversing PTO may be a dream-I just know that I was dumb enough to screw my tractor into the ground the first time I dug holes for my pole barn. I do know that both ground speed (for plowing) and engine speed(mowing) PTO are available on my old MF.  I seldom use the ground speed mode but usually use engine speed for mowing. My MF 35 also has a dual action clutch which makes engaging/using the PTO much easier.

 

I would definitely say that the scraper blade is more versatile that the box blade.  I have used both and ended up selling the box blade.

 

I can’t help with front end loaders-no experience there. I know that you will probably have to add weights to the rear to compensate for the extra front weight.  You also will need additional hydraulics(pump, reservoir, hoses, etc)

 

Cost may be a determining factor.  I see “older” tractors in the $5-8k range pretty frequently in our central NC area. Buying implements can be all over the place costwise.  I haven’t priced newer compact tractors, but assume they are much more expensive. So, if you can find a well maintained older tractor, I feel like you can get more for the $$$ spent. The maintenance is pretty easy, the tractors are simple and parts are generally available at reasonable cost. However, these older tractors are not a sophisticated-one tractor forum guy says”after all, you are dealing with ‘50’-60’s technology”.

 

I have purchased tractors, implements and parts from dealers and from individuals.  Had some good and ‘just ok” results from both.  Lots of on line sources for parts.

 

I would suggest that you start with whatever tractor you can find somewhat locally at a decent price, knowing that may not be the ultimate tractor you end up with.  Then start acquiring the necessary implements as needed.  All of the implements with be “standard” for 3 point hitch and PTO.  After you have more experience with what you actually need and want, then you will have more information to get the “perfect” tractor for what you really need. Getting a tractor now will get you immediately started, will let you know what you like/dislike about the tractor and give you time to find the better unit.

 

Regardless of what tractor you purchase, I would suggest that you buy ALL of the manuals you can find for that model-owner’s, workshop, parts lists and get both the original OEM manuals as well as aftermarket.  Particularly on older models the manuals go out of print and can be pretty expensive, but are invaluable.  Also, like RPODS, there are forum for everything.

 

Good luck

Vann



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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 11:40am
Vann, I think your advice is good. In fact, your area is not far from me so if you hear of something you think is a good option please let me know. 

I have no problems getting a well maintained older smaller farm tractor rather than a newer compact utility one, except for the lack of a ROPS. Some can be retrofitted I guess, but it gets pricey. 

Gas vs diesel I don't think is a deal killer for me,  gas will start easier in winter, diesel will have less maintenance. But I can adjust a carb and know what points and condensers are, not a big deal. 

I looked at a 1980 Yanmar today, nice 2wd tractor and heavier than I thought it would be, kinda close to a 50's Ford in terms of weight and wheelbase. It had a 4 speed pto which I'd never seen before. 26hp diesel. 12 fwd and 4 rev gears with something called powershift, automatic hydraulic clutch with a sychronized  gear drive.   No ROPS so I'll find out if it can be retrofitted. 

You're right about collecting the attachments, those can quickly cost more than an older tractor.




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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 11:47am
Originally posted by Olddawgsrule


I'm assuming you have already done a tower search and find them to far for a Yagi & Booster.

Ha, you're within my drive possibility for the right deal! You're smart enough to work out what the requirements are for you. Best of in your research!

Actually I haven't yet, cell data plans are throttled and my wife works from home and uses lots of bandwidth, so I want to try dsl first and see how that works. But now that you mention it I might see if I can pull in a decent signal, at least that would be something for when the phone lines go out. 

I don't have a rig that can tow a 3000-4000 lb tractor plus its trailer so that is going to limit my search area quite a bit unless I can find a seller who will deliver.


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 1:03pm
My two cents worth:
Consider delay time before you commit to a satellite service. The satellites are 22.5K+ miles away and introduce considerable delay. This is not a problem for downloading or streaming but can affect two way and interactive applications. Video conferencing is probably out. I even noticed problems when trying to access my home remote cameras from a friends satellite system. Also, search for local broadband providers that may offer ground based microwave systems. These systems work fairly well if you can see their tower.

As for the tractor search, I can only say 'I wish". I'd love to have a tractor to play with but settled for a zero turn riding mower for my 2.6 acres. When I had 20 acres previously I had a small Case tractor, but alas, it's gone. Good luck on your search and have lots of fun. Orange vs red vs green vs gray vs rust......Hmmmmm.


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PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 2:00pm
Well at least the rust color is applied locally for free, you can get it around here with any and all the other colors...

Yes, VOIP via sat data is out for my wife's work, she's on the phone all day. Other than that I see the latency as a benefit because it makes the connection useless for online gaming when the grandkids visit. Evil Smile

If I have to go with sat data I'll probably need to also install a landline.  Remember those? Haven't had one in 10 years.  Almost like having to climb the pole to make phone calls like on Green Acres....

I do like wireless local internet. One supplier has already surveyed and said no line of sight, I still have one more to get out there. US Cellular (of all companies) actually has towers in the area and offers fixed location internet service but its throttled more or less like mobile cellular. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 6:33pm
ROPS is a good idea but I've never had it and I'm still alive.  I have had a friend who lost his son to a rollover though, so they are absolutely no laughing matter.  For me though, I have rough land and have to be careful bushogging, but I mow under low hanging branches a lot.  ROPS would be a real handicap.  Before my MF 35 I had a John Deere 1010 gas tractor.  No ROPS but it had a muffler that stood straight up.  I knocked it off several times.  The MF muffler runs under the rear axle, kind of like a motorcycle.  Never a problem with getting under things.  However, for rough bushhogging you have to be really careful backing up!  There are all kinds of things I'm dumb enough to have had to learn the hard way.

My friend's son was on an old trike style tractor,  I don't remember what kind.  It doesn't take much to tip them over.  A tractor with front wheels on about the same track as the rears is a lot safer.  Arguably, certainly, ROPS is less necessary on a tractor with wide-set front wheels.  I wouldn't have a trike stile tractor.

Although... I had another friend whose father died when his bull dozer flipped over on him. 

I guess the moral of the story is take things slow until you get comfortable on your tractor.  You have to pay attention all the time. 

Oh, yeah, one thing I think is really important for a new used tractor is to make sure the brakes work well.  Being able to use the right or left brake to help make sharp turns is great and, as far as I'm concerned pretty much eliminates the need for power steering.

TT


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2010 176
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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 7:30pm
Yah, I've learned that about the brakes on the old Ford that was originally at my new place that the seller used. I'm guessing thats especially important with 2wd tractors. Just looking at them the front ends really can't be doing that much, and once you put a brush hog on the 3 pt..The Ford wouldn't steer worth a damn until I started using the brakes. Scared me. My worry is that knowing that isn't the same as doing it right when I need to until my "muscle memory" kicks in. I'm sure its going to be like learning to fly an airplane was. the first hours are the highest risk. And, the older you get the slower you learn....

As I understand it, you draw a trapezoid between the contact patches of the 4 tires. If the cg falls outside of that trapezoid over you go. So downhill on a tricycle tractor, not good....

So many farmers have died from tractor rollovers, its really sad. Everyone around here I've talked to seems to either have a relative or know a neighbor who has died that way. Steep mountain land?   And much of the time it results in the loss of the farm and the family heritage. I just don't want to take the risk, apparently the survival rate with ROPS ans seat belt from a rollover is about 99% vs 30% without. That's pretty compelling odds in my case, If I was younger and had flatter land I might feel differently...


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 12:24am
Originally posted by offgrid

Yah, I've learned that about the brakes on the old Ford that was originally at my new place that the seller used. I'm guessing thats especially important with 2wd tractors. Just looking at them the front ends really can't be doing that much, and once you put a brush hog on the 3 pt..The Ford wouldn't steer worth a damn until I started using the brakes.

The independent R&L brakes are integral for steering, I suspect for even a 4WD with power steering.  There are times when you want to make a 90° turn in place, maybe depending on the job you're doing.  Mowing hay, for example, but possibly when bush hogging in some situations.  (I wonder if bush or brush hogging is a regional thing.) 

I think you're right about muscle memory regarding tractor braking.  I do it without thinking.  You learn fast though.  While you're learning you can drop a gear or two and just go slower.  That's a nice thing about tractors.  Set the engine to 1900 rpm, or whatever, choose the gear you want for ground speed and your PTO speed is 540 regardless, so the mower or bush hog turns at the right speed no matter what.  The bush hog will generally do a nicer job at lower ground speeds, which I guess is the silver lining.

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 6:22am
Originally posted by Tars Tarkas

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The independent R&L brakes are integral for steering, I suspect for even a 4WD with power steering.  There are times when you want to make a 90° turn in place, maybe depending on the job you're doing.  Mowing hay, for example, but possibly when bush hogging in some situations.  (I wonder if bush or brush hogging is a regional thing.)  
TT

Me to seller of loader tractor with attachments: Got a bush hog?
Seller: Yep
Me: Great, I have 12 acres of pasture to mow
Seller: Huh? I don't have a mower for it.
Me: Huh? You just told me you did.
Seller: No I didn't.

After that went on a little it finally became clear that he had a Bush Hog brand loader on his tractor.
So now I say "brush hog".  You can't call it a mower either because that could be a "finish mower".  Embarrassed






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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Olddawgsrule
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 7:16am
Originally posted by offgrid

Originally posted by Olddawgsrule


I'm assuming you have already done a tower search and find them to far for a Yagi & Booster.

Ha, you're within my drive possibility for the right deal! You're smart enough to work out what the requirements are for you. Best of in your research!

Actually I haven't yet, cell data plans are throttled and my wife works from home and uses lots of bandwidth, so I want to try dsl first and see how that works. But now that you mention it I might see if I can pull in a decent signal, at least that would be something for when the phone lines go out. 


I researched plans for traveling and for home. AT&T 'had' one they promoted that gave me unlimited on 4 devices (one being a internet box) for less that my 20 gig combined Verizon for 2 phones (then my cost of internet). No brainer for me.. Throttled yes, but have to blow through 4 limits before an issue. Watch the plans as they promote them. Hopefully you can find good signal from both Big Boys so you can have choices. 
I worked from the road and home for the last year of employment. The system worked great from home, okay on the road (obvious reasons).

Emergency contact.. think Ham! Do a tower search in the area, if you have 'a', you can bounce through them all! Systems out now that you can 'text' with Ham to cell phones (only hearing about them, haven't used). 


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Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 7:48am
Even though they are generically called 'rotary cutter' in the catalog, most tractor owners dont call them that.

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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 8:00am
I have ATT unlimited and have been throttled on it before while travelling and using lots of bandwidth. I get no signal at our new place on it, but sometimes get one bar up the road a bit, so that will be a tough test for the directional antenna. My daughter has Verizon and sometimes gets one bar at the house, so I think that might work. US Cellular has their own towers in the area and the locals all have that, so there is a good possibility. Just got the dsl in, They promised 1.5 mbps which is inadequate but its showing 3 mbps, which just might be enough.  Wife will try working from there next week and see. 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Olddawgsrule
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 8:13am
Originally posted by offgrid

I have ATT unlimited and have been throttled on it before while travelling and using lots of bandwidth. I get no signal at our new place on it, but sometimes get one bar up the road a bit, so that will be a tough test for the directional antenna. My daughter has Verizon and sometimes gets one bar at the house, so I think that might work. US Cellular has their own towers in the area and the locals all have that, so there is a good possibility. Just got the dsl in, They promised 1.5 mbps which is inadequate but its showing 3 mbps, which just might be enough.  Wife will try working from there next week and see. 

Well you know the story, if there's signal you can boost, but can't boost no signal.. Hope the DSL works for ya.


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2017 Tacoma
http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=72408 - Truck Camper Build
2004 F150 My Overlander


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 8:40am
A couple of times I brought in a decent connection using the directional antenna with no service on showing on the phone with booster and omni antenna. Conditions have to be perfect. It was flat terrain, mostly open water in Eastern NC about 30 miles from the tower. So you can bring in a highly attenuated signal if you are in line of sight. 

But down in a hole where line of sight is blocked, forget it. Sometimes though just getting the antenna up 20 ft clears the obstructions. So it all depends on the terrain, tree cover, etc.

You have to do a survey. I've frequently gotten service by selecting a campsite at a higher elevation when there was none lower in the campground. What I usually do is drive through a campground with the phone on booster and omni in the TV. If I get a bar or more then I pick a site in that area. That's one reason I wouldn't want just the RV mounted booster. Having the booster in the TV is invaluable. The other reason is that even when you get no signal in the campground down in the hole often there is one within a couple of miles drive if you have a booster. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 9:44am
Offgrid, Sure you have discovered Tractorhouse.com. You can search regionally, the only issue is the 40K tractors they have are listed by make. Also there are tractor transporters on line. You could rent a truck and trailer. You know - where there's a will.

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Mike Carter
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" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 9:59am
If you are north of 44 degrees latitude, you can sign up to be a beta tester for Starlink.

Tell Elon I said howdy!

Wink


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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 10:14am
Originally posted by offgrid


Me to seller of loader tractor with attachments: Got a bush hog?
Seller: Yep
Me: Great, I have 12 acres of pasture to mow
Seller: Huh? I don't have a mower for it.
Me: Huh? You just told me you did.
Seller: No I didn't.

After that went on a little it finally became clear that he had a Bush Hog brand loader on his tractor.
So now I say "brush hog".  You can't call it a mower either because that could be a "finish mower".  Embarrassed

In my experience a bush hog is a rotary mower, that works fine on grass but it's generally meant for rougher stuff, and meant for leaving what's cut on the field.  Bush Hog is a brand though too, that makes things other than rotary mowers, so there is that confusion.

In my experience still, a mower is what is used to cut grass for hay.  There are at least a couple of basic types, but they have small sharp cutters, more like knives, on a 6 to 8 foot bar that slice the grass off inches above the ground and lay it down neatly for raking into windrows for baling.  A haybine is a variation that may crimp the grass for faster drying and may even windrow it at the same time.  Mowers and bush hog, or brush hogs, are two very different animals, used for different purposes.

A finish mower is usually a multi-bladed deck mower with wheels on the outer edges to keep the deck level across the cut.  It's used on those giant front lawns of estate houses, for example.   

There is some overlap in how you can uses these attachments but depending on what you do on your farm, you would choose the one most appropriate for your needs.  If you have more than one need, you might need more than one attachment.  A bush hog is a good general tool, and probably what you want, but I used to cut hay so I had to have a mower too.  (And a rake and a baler.)

TT


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2010 176
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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 10:18am
Yep Tractorhouse is a good source. You can search on all tractors and sort by distance, and include price and hours  limits. The most annoying thing is that there are premium adds which get listed first and then the list starts over with regular ads, so you have to sift through premium stuff all the way out to CA and then start again. There are way more used older tractors on there in the East than in the West so its not too bad. 

Lat is about 37 here, I don't like those short winter days farther north....I'm not a big Musk fan anyway, so that's fine with me. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 11:14am
There are a BOATLOAD of millennials and others, hopping on the elon, tesla, and starlink bandwagons. I only signed up cuz I'm curious...kinda. Didn't cost me a dime.

In fact I had my 'link' to the 'stars' the other night when I rode the bike out into the dark countryside a bit after twilight and pointed my binoculars to a point just below the big dipper and POOF...there it was...Comet Neowise!

It wont be back for hundreds of years, so I thought I'd make the effort. 

Again, didn't cost me a dime.

Clap




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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 2:00pm
One thing about diesel is that it lasts at least a year without stabilizer. Our Kubota takes MONTHS to use a whole tank of gas. So we get it in a 5 gallon can, and it just sits for that amount of time. Gasoline is a little cheaper, but you will probably have to add stabilizer, and then it just barely lasts as long as diesel.

As for internet; the only choice we have here is fixed wireless. Cable will never get here in my lifetime, and DSL will probably be longer, as we're at least 73,000' from the nearest CO. Our cellular service works, but only at the west end of the house and if you're standing on one foot. Starlink might be great once it gets to your latitude, but it will be at least another year (and probably longer). We get our internet via fixed wireless.


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2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 2:21pm
The good thing about gasoline is that it requires less filtration and you can dump any sitting around in your car once a month or two and just get more. And ethanol free as well. OTOH off road diesel is available at many fuel stations for less $$. Lots of farmers in the area. Probably though I will end up with a diesel tractor because gasoline went out of favor a little before ROPS became mandatory I think. Gets cold here though (relative to CA) so I'm a bit concerned about winter starts. 

I have fixed wireless too and its a great service but so far none of the providers have service at our new location. I was pretty surprised the DSL worked, this place is 2 miles up a gravel road and there ie nothing anywhere close by on the highway either. Going to have to find out where the CO is. Maybe that's why the only promise 1.5 mbps? 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 4:21pm
We always called then shredders. I've cut many a cedar with them.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 7:35pm
To add more confusion to Tars’ reply—-When we were in Washington and Oregon, we saw signs reading”Caution, Brushers Ahead”. We had no idea what they were talking about. Finally, we came around a curve and there it was—a brusher!
It was a tractor with an articulated arm mounted midship and a “bush hog” on the end of the arm. It was cutting the branches and foliage on vertical edge of the right of way. I have seen these before many times here in NC, but never heard them called brushers.  In fact, I don’t know what they are called
Vann


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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 7:07am
Boom mower or boom cutter. Usually they use flail mowers rather than rotary cutters along roadsides because flail mowers throw out less stuff to damage ppl's cars. Flail mowers rotate chains around a horizontal shaft which beats the vegetation up but doesn't throw it out far. If you see a rotary cutter along a roadway like that keep way back if you like your paint job. 




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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 9:22am
A question of curiosity, do tractors come with seat belts? My brother many years ago sold his tractor because he developed MS and was afraid of falling off. I used a tractor some mowing a orange grove and remembered it being bouncy at times that I held on and slowed down.

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2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019)
2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014)
Middle Tn
2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab




Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 9:41am
I suppose you could add them to an open tractor, but I would not want to be attached to a large, heavy rolling piece of machinery....similar to a motorcycle, you do NOT want to be strapped to the cartwheeling wreckage. 

A ROPS bar would help if you were strapped in, but I'd always want to be able to jump free of the event.

A tractor with an enclosed operator safety cage is of course, the exception...they DO have seatbelts.



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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 10:05am
Here's what I've read:

A ROPS is really a roll over protection system, meaning it is a combination of a rollbar and a setbelt. Neither is much good without the other, if not worse. Together the rollbar creates a safety zone for your body and the seatbelt keeps you in that zone when the tractor goes over. 

From what I read, survival rate in a rollover using both goes from around 30% to 99%. I like those odds.  If you are working the tractor under low hanging trees though the sealtbelt can be dangerous because a branch can take your head off rather than just pulling you out of the tractor. So, you need to pick and choose what you do based on conditions. I think I will go for a chainsaw to fix the tree problem myself. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 11:37am
Originally posted by offgrid

Gets cold here though (relative to CA) so I'm a bit concerned about winter starts. 

I have fixed wireless too and its a great service but so far none of the providers have service at our new location. I was pretty surprised the DSL worked, this place is 2 miles up a gravel road and there ie nothing anywhere close by on the highway either. Going to have to find out where the CO is. Maybe that's why the only promise 1.5 mbps? 

I only need the glow plugs on the first start in the morning. After that, it starts up like a car. I can walk away from it for 4-5 hours, and turn the key and boom, it's running. I don't know what Kubota does, but it's always been an easy starter.

Out here, the main impediment to fixed wireless is the terrain. If your property is large enough with enough variation in elevation, it might be possible to put up a private relay. We have done this in a number of situations. We put up a solar-powered relay at a suitable high spot, and relay the service down to the home (or whatever). Because the relay is point-to-point, this doesn't affect the throughput, but will add a few milliseconds of latency.


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2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 12:23pm
My last option for fixed wireless service providers told me no can do. No towers serving the area. So I think its either dsl (which I have operating at 3 mbps now), satellite (latency and throttling) or US Cellular fixed internet service (throttling). 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 1:12pm
To paraphrase an old sage: When I go flying through the air the last thing I want strapped to my butt is a tractor. Probably applies without ROPS. Wink

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PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 8:58pm
Interesting discussion and I am getting in late.  20 acres here in northern Michigan and about 1 mile south of the exact 45th parallel.  Being in the golf industry for many years I have seen my share of gas and diesel tractors which include Jacobsen, Toro, Ford, MF, International, Case, and most recently Kubota.  Horsepower range on all these was anywhere from 35 (Jacobsen) to 65 Kubota.  In all cases I coundn't really complain about any of them, they were all real workhorses and did a spectacular especially considering their age and number of hours logged.  Maintenance is key to all of them.

At home I mow 3.5 acres, maybe a smidge more with a 1989 Toro Groundsmaster 220, it has a 52" deck, 23 HP Continental gas engine with just under 4000 hours.  It doesn't look real purdy, but it gets the job done.  Very dependable and gives a professional cut to boot.  Height of deck can be adjusted from 1" to 4" (with 1/2" increments in between) by removing 4 pins on the deck, takes about 1 minute to change height of cut if needed. 


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'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 6:38am
Not gonna contemplate trying to cut 12 acres of steep, overgrown, rough pasture with a riding mower.....

I ended up passing on the 1980"s Yanmar. Very good engines but in general parts are getting hard to come by. The search continues, but that's the fun part. Once I buy something I'll have no excuse not to actually sit on it for a few days and cut the 12 acres....

My wife wants horses again, and she deals with all the living things and I deal with all the electrical and mechanical things. So,  this would be a fun way for her to mow (for about 30 minutes maybe): 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVBV4n37TOY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVBV4n37TOY



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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 6:43am
You guys are giving me tractor envy. For grass I use my little Deere x300.

For brush hogging I break out the BIG GUN!!  LOL




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2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 6:46am
Originally posted by offgrid

My wife wants horses again, and she deals with all the living things and I deal with all the electrical and mechanical things. So,  this would be a fun way for her to mow (for about 30 minutes maybe): 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVBV4n37TOY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVBV4n37TOY



That's great! Not exactly zero-turn, but hay! Get's the job done! LOL


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2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 7:06am
There is a place in PA Amish country that rebuilds old horse drawn implements. 

Apparently the issue with mowing with horses is that with only 2 HP available its critical to keep that sickle bar mower super sharp. Like sharpening every couple of hours or so. That, being a mechanical task, would come back to me to do. And if the horses discover a snake in the field, panic and start backing, be sure to jump off the mower to the left not the right where those super sharp blades are.....


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 9:20am
Off grid,  I love it !  Sweet mowing machine!


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 9:26am
Ok you guys, I couldn't contain myself.  We have a couple of these big boys at the 4 golf courses I used to maintain before retiring.  Width of cut is 16 feet and will mow up to 100 acres in an 8 hour day.  Pricey, yes, but you will be the envy of the neighborhood!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgKxFpo7isY


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 10:47am
Can I get one with 28 inch ag tires? 

I like how the fan reverses automatically when it overheats to blow the glass out of the radiator screen. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 11:31am
Originally posted by offgrid

Can I get one with 28 inch ag tires? 

I like how the fan reverses automatically when it overheats to blow the glass out of the radiator screen. 
That is sweet. With the brush hog on our Kubota, I have to keep an eye on the temp, and go find a hose to clear the radiator once in a while. That, and ours only does 4' width.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by offgrid


I like how the fan reverses automatically when it overheats to blow the glass out of the radiator screen. 


I hate it when glass gets in there...tempered glass is not so bad, but plate glass...wow what a mess.

Or are you Japanese?

Tongue


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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 3:18pm
Going through some older photos and fondly reminded when a bucket comes in handy when collecting red oak firewood!




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2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 4:00pm
What Kubota model is that? I looked at this yesterday, Shibaru Ford from the 1980's. 






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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Olddawgsrule
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 4:05pm
What's the rear diff? You're... close to what I'm searching for. Good era, good make. I'm almost scared to ask how much cause it looks too pretty..




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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJduGeZNFgtptH67leItRFQ - Byways no Highways
2017 Tacoma
http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=72408 - Truck Camper Build
2004 F150 My Overlander


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 4:13pm
Not sure what you want to know about the rear diff? Tractordata.com has all the specs on it. 

The guy wants $6K or so for it, only about 800 hours on the clock. Parts are getting hard to come by on these now is the main concern I have, plus its a little small for my requirements. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 4:29pm
That Ford is beautiful!  My borrowed Kubota is a L3410 I think. Fun.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/001/2/5/1250-kubota-l3410.html - http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/001/2/5/1250-kubota-l3410.html

I was wrong. Friend just told me it's a L3010

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/001/2/4/1249-kubota-l3010.html - http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/001/2/4/1249-kubota-l3010.html




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2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 6:36am
Thanks for all the suggestions and comments everyone. 

Just an update, here's what I wound up with. 

Ford 231, industrial version of the common 2000 ag tractor.  So parts are plentiful. Ford gave these the designation LCG (for low center of gravity). Not sure the date of manufacture, but around mid to late 70's. 36 hp three cyl diesel, power steering. hi/lo 8 speed tranny, and ROPS. Just got it to my new place yesterday. Paid a whole $2K for it. 

Seems pretty tight for an old tractor, fixed a broken hydraulic line to one of the PS cylinders. Have a small leak on the hydraulic pump to sort out, or maybe just not worry about. Brakes, clutch, pto, 3 point all appear to work properly. No blow by. None of the gauges work except the oil pressure, but I guess I really don't care. Not at all a beauty queen but I don't care about that either. Sheet metal is pretty good if I ever wanted to paint it. 

Just finished swapping rear tires around so the wheels are dished out, 7 foot wheel track now. Still need to move the fronts out which requires readjusting the toe in. I don't think I could roll this thing over on a hill if I tried.


Now to find a good used brush (bush) hog....






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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold



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