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Topic: WATER HEATER IGNITION BOARD
Posted By: Kahonu37
Subject: WATER HEATER IGNITION BOARD
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 3:26pm
The water heater would not ignite In the gas mode, on our recently purchased 179. DSI light was staying on. Checked the flume, and the reset switches, they were fine. Checked the ignition control board, which was mounted to the water heater by double sided tape and a cable tie. Discovered the Q3 contacts located on the back of the circuit board covered by the double sided tape to be burned out.

This is a Suburban Water Heater SW6DE, replacement board $100+ (Made in China) 90 day warranty. We purchased a new Dinosaur Electric, UIB S (small) $88+ (Made in USA) 3 year warranty. Working great, easy fix. However would recommend purchasing a cover/case as old Suburban case will not fit. It is slightly bigger. The UIB S also has a 5 amp fuse built in, along with some LED lights and some test ports. It gets really good reviews

Hopes this helps with any water heater ignition problems


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2018 179
2012 NISSAN XTERRA (retired 12/19)
2019 RAM 1500 WARLOCK (new)
A.R.E. V Series Topper
WDH Equalizer 600/6000



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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 4:30pm
Thank you for this information. I have not experienced any problems with our water heater, but it is good to file the information for future reference if needed.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 5:53pm
+1 Very good troubleshooting process and identification of a great fix, Thanks!

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 10:39am
Quick water heater question,
I'm at Shenandoah national Park at 3000' my water heater fires for 6 seconds and then the flame turns off this started happening yesterday, it worked fine the first two days.
Propane tanks are full and everything else propane related works fine.
Any thoughts?

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http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS
John&Sue,SLO,CA
2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
 


Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 12:52pm
You are obviously getting gas and an ignition spark if it fires for 6 seconds. Sounds like maybe a blockage? and it can't keep up with enough propane fast enough? 

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2017.5 Rp-172
2020 R-pod 195
2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl
I'll be rpodding


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 1:23pm
Its probably the flame probe electrode not contacting the flame properly. If it doesn't make contact the control board will think that the flame has gone out and will shut off the propane for safety. The probe can be adjusted. Here is a link to the service manual.  Troubleshooting guides are around page 19.

http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Suburban_Water_Heater_Service_Manual.pdf - http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Suburban_Water_Heater_Service_Manual.pdf


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: JR
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 1:46pm
You might want to check for a spider web in the burner tube that also could be a contributor.

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Jay

179/2019


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 1:49pm
or a wasp nest. I put screens on all openings to prevent them from getting in and building nests.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 5:04pm
Thanks for all the ideas to check! The burner blows full force for the first six seconds and then goes out oh, it did this three times. I'm thinking it must be the flame sensor. I took it apart made sure the Gap was correct in position properly, and no change
Thanks MJ for the manual going to take a hard look at it tomorrow.
Real spotty cell service up here.

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http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS
John&Sue,SLO,CA
2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
 


Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 8:30am
Kahunp37,
Still noodling the hot water heater, it's the same model as yours. is the control panel behind the small oval black case below the ignition tube near the gas valve?
And now won't light at all, there's no spark, but gas does flow. I can light it with a lighter though but it still goes off after five or six seconds. Fortunately I could just fire it with the generator on electric to get hot water from my wife's nightly shower. As I said before the stove is fine the furnace works fine the refrigerator on propane works fine so it must a problem in the unit somehow.
Thanks John

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http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS
John&Sue,SLO,CA
2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
 


Posted By: Kahonu37
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 10:20am
Sorry for the delay.

My ignition control board, on the 2018 179, is located under the bed Taped to the water heater. As suggested remove tape an tape from back of circuit board an look at Q3. if you note a burn mark the board, it is bad. You can also have the board it tested, by RV dealer, allegedly.

The black box you referred to, contains the reset switches, for both the 120 volt (left)  and 12 volt (right) systems. There are several YouTube videos on these items.

I don’t recommend unsafely lighting it from the flume.

Let me know if this helps.


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2018 179
2012 NISSAN XTERRA (retired 12/19)
2019 RAM 1500 WARLOCK (new)
A.R.E. V Series Topper
WDH Equalizer 600/6000


Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 6:45pm
Kahonu37,
Thanks for the input, I found the reset switches they are above the gas valve, a big square rubber cover with two resets on it. the one I was referring to is under the gas valve to the right. it's an oval cover down near the bottom next to the electric switch. we're heading back home in the morning. I plan to take a hard look at it when I get back. thanks for letting me know where the sensor is, I'll let you know how it goes, thanks again.

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http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS
John&Sue,SLO,CA
2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
 


Posted By: Kahonu37
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 9:11pm
You are welcomed, good luck.

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2018 179
2012 NISSAN XTERRA (retired 12/19)
2019 RAM 1500 WARLOCK (new)
A.R.E. V Series Topper
WDH Equalizer 600/6000



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