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Topic: Electric Cordless Lawn Mower
Posted By: mjlrpod
Subject: Electric Cordless Lawn Mower
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 5:17pm
I bought an electric cordless lawn mower today. I'm so sick of pulling that cord and it won't start. Normally because the gas is foul. Well, no more gas to go bad, or oil. It's quiet as heck, and it did a really nice job on the lawn. It's a Kobalt 80-volt Max Brushless Lithium Ion Self-propelled 21-in Cordless Electric Lawn Mower. A little steep on cost, but nice mower. Anybody have one? Like it? 

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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 6:23pm
No. I had a plug-in electric mower once and did not like it because the blade was so thin to keep it light. The blade didn't hold up well, especially if one hit a root. Hopefully, the cordless mower holds up well and works well for you.

As for gasoline mowers, always buy no-ethanol gasoline and then add gasoline stabilizer to it. It makes all the difference in the world. I don't care that the manufacturers say that 10% ethanol is okay. Maybe until the warranty expires, but it will cause problems unless one drains the gasoline and runs the carburetor dry after every use. Ethanol attracts moisture which then promotes gumming up the carburetor. No-ethanol gasoline does not have that issue and if stabilizer is used, holds up well, even if it is left in the tank for extended periods. This applies for string trimmers and other 2 cycle engines that use gas-oil mix also. It really is applicable for gasoline powered generators also.


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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 7:19pm
I don't have the Kobalt one but I got an Ego cordless self propelled one this spring at THD,been using it all year.

By far the best walk behind mower I ever had. I will never go back to gasoline, I honestly don't know why anyone would. Quiet, no gas to buy, no fuel contamination, no maintenance of any kind except the blades. Its so quiet I feel OK mowing at 7am when its nice and cool bc I'm not bothering the neighbors, 

I have a steep half acre to mow so I need self propelled. The mower runs longer than I do, I just put the batt in the charger when I take a break. I got the Ego string trimmer too. The auto rewind feature is fantastic. takes 10 seconds to install new string in it. First time I did it it was why didn't anyone think of that before, but you couldn't do it with a gas motor. 

I no longer have gasoline at the house at all except in my cars, my backup/rpod genny runs on propane, and all my power tools are electric. 


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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by offgrid

I don't have the Kobalt one but I got an Ego cordless self propelled one this spring at THD,been using it all year.

By far the best walk behind mower I ever had. I will never go back to gasoline, I honestly don't know why anyone would. Quiet, no gas to buy, no fuel contamination, no maintenance of any kind except the blades. Its so quiet I feel OK mowing at 7am when its nice and cool bc I'm not bothering the neighbors, 

I have a steep half acre to mow so I need self propelled. The mower runs longer than I do, I just put the batt in the charger when I take a break. I got the Ego string trimmer too. The auto rewind feature is fantastic. takes 10 seconds to install new string in it. First time I did it it was why didn't anyone think of that before, but you couldn't do it with a gas motor. 

I no longer have gasoline at the house at all except in my cars, my backup/rpod genny runs on propane, and all my power tools are electric. Working on the cars next LOL


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Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 5:49am
As Stephen H states, no ethanol, or as we call it in Michigan RV gas is the 'go to' for any mower, two cycle, log splitter, leaf blower, chain saws, string trimmer or similar.  It is basically the gas we bought in the 1950's through much of the 1970's.  A neighbor of mine had a 5 gallon container of RV gas sitting in his garage for over 4 years and wanted to get rid of it.  As an experiment I emptied the fuel in my log splitter out into my RV gas can, put in his "old" gas and pulled on the cord 2x with the choke on; fired right up and ran sweet as I split wood.  My leaf blower is a 24 year old Honda with a 8.5 HP engine.  Many years it will sit for 50 weeks and as I go to start it, often it will start on the first pull with the choke on.  No Stabil or other additives, RV gas you cannot beat.  Guess I have been fortunate not having to pull on a cord until I am wore out. By using RV gas, if it doesn't start you can be sure the problem lies not with the fuel, but with something else.  And with 3+ acres to mow on 20 acres of property, that would require either a lot of extension cord or more than a couple batteries.  And on the electric cooperative I am with, cost per KWH is 23.3 cents.

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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 6:31am
For my 24 acres, I'm getting a tractor, probably a diesel, for sure. Electric isn't ready for that yet. 

But for a half an acre in suburbia, absolutely its there. No reason for gasoline anymore. I have a nice electric chainsaw, slabbed up 3 large cherry trees this spring, no problem at all. If you haven't tried out the new electric trimmers and mowers and you're in the market by all means take a look. 

Even at 24 cents per kwh electric is cheaper than gasoline, but the energy cost is really insignificant either way. Reliability, maintenance, convenience, pollution, and noise are much bigger factors. 


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Posted By: Pod_Geek
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 10:06am
Originally posted by offgrid

I don't have the Kobalt one but I got an Ego cordless self propelled one this spring at THD,been using it all year.

By far the best walk behind mower I ever had. I will never go back to gasoline, I honestly don't know why anyone would. Quiet, no gas to buy, no fuel contamination, no maintenance of any kind except the blades. Its so quiet I feel OK mowing at 7am when its nice and cool bc I'm not bothering the neighbors ...

Have two EGO mowers and a leaf blower.  Love all of them...great the way the batteries work in any EGO product.  Ditto on the early-morning mowing...nice and cool out then.


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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by offgrid

For my 24 acres, I'm getting a tractor, probably a diesel, for sure. Electric isn't ready for that yet. 

But for a half an acre in suburbia, absolutely its there. No reason for gasoline anymore. I have a nice electric chainsaw, slabbed up 3 large cherry trees this spring, no problem at all. If you haven't tried out the new electric trimmers and mowers and you're in the market by all means take a look. 

Even at 24 cents per kwh electric is cheaper than gasoline, but the energy cost is really insignificant either way. Reliability, maintenance, convenience, pollution, and noise are much bigger factors. 
The area around the house is 2-1/2 to 3 acres and is sloped enough to require a self-propelled mower. Can't do that yet with battery or corded, so we have a 36" dual-blade self-propelled mower we use for that. For the other 36 acres we use the tractor. I always add stabilizer to the fuel in the mower AND I run it dry every time I shut it down so there is nothing to gum up in the carburetor. We also brush cut along the driveway, which is about 3/4 mile long, so that is also tractor work.


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Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 7:21pm
I had never heard of EGO brand cordless electric tools....hmm...very interesting....I am kinda in the market for a good weedeater...but in the past, having owned a few little 2 stroke weedeaters over the years...some of them last a while, others dont...some are easy to start, some aren't....I have been considering a cordless electric model...perhaps the Ryobi 40v tools...or these EGO tools...does someone want to let me test drive both?

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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 7:32pm
We have a pair of Stihl FS260 weed whackers (AKA brush cutters). We bought both of them about 10 years ago, and they are still going strong.




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Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 11:46pm
What do you expect, it's German made so it's got to be good

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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 5:31am
Little 4 stroke engines are bad enough but I have been known to fling 2 smoker weedwhackers down the hill in the past when they fail to start. They spin really nice through the air, very satisfying 👍

Can’t speak for the Ryobi but the Ego string trimmer is an excellent tool. Check out the string replacement feature online. Works great. Podwerks, if you want to make the trip to SWVA I’d by happy to let you whack away to your hearts content.

I can certainly see a purpose for fueled mowers for larger acreages but not for string trimmers. The Ego does the whole acre perimeter landscaped yard area around our new place and the 800 ft drive on 2 charges. Easily an hour per charge or more, not sure because I’ve never run out, I just like taking a break after an hour or so trimming anyway. If you really wanted to keep going all day nonstop then just get a second battery.

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Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 1:14pm
I have a large, broad, berm out front, parallel with the bar ditch, with a deep rut that runs in the 'V' of the ditch, that is literally at about a 45 degree angle and I need to be able to attack that with a handheld (so to speak) brush cutter, weedwacker, whatever. My riding mower is not the right tool for this job. Neither would a push mower work. I need to be able to walk along and knock the weeds down. 

The county hits it with a team of large Kubota mowing tractors, about once or twice a year. These guys have large articulating mowing decks with 'wings' that have hydraulics and they cut the 2-4 foot tall weeds on angled berms and culverts with no problems...but they are on some kind of contract with the county, and they are from Waco and...anyway....I need something that will work, in between the jobs that the 'pros' do once or twice per season.

The little cheap weed-eaters are just not enough hardware...I need something that is on a shoulder or body harness or sling, with a head that can be angled or twisted to get in and 'tear it up!'

Gonna cost money... I know that!


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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 1:53pm
You need one of these. Plus you can put on your lederhosen and yodel while running it by remote control....LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG7f72BYa5U - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG7f72BYa5U


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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 2:21pm
Originally posted by offgrid

 I can certainly see a purpose for fueled mowers for larger acreages but not for string trimmers. The Ego does the whole acre perimeter landscaped yard area around our new place and the 800 ft drive on 2 charges. Easily an hour per charge or more, not sure because I’ve never run out, I just like taking a break after an hour or so trimming anyway. If you really wanted to keep going all day nonstop then just get a second battery.
The slope to the south of our house is roughly 2-1/2 acres with a 45 degree slope (100% grade). It is approximately 24 hours of labor for someone in extremely good shape using one (or both) of our Stihl brush cutters. It is largely grass, but there are significant portions with Yellow Star Thistle, Italian Thistle, Bull Thistle, and Mustard. None of those can be cut with wimpy string trimmers. We use a heavy duty cord that is 0.155" diameter. We have to change line about once per tank load. A tank load will last between an hour and 90 minutes. The good news is it just needs to be done once per year if you time it correctly.


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Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 3:01pm
Originally posted by offgrid

You need one of these. Plus you can put on your lederhosen and yodel while running it by remote control....LOL


Next up: Julie Andrews in, 'The Sound of Mowing'...


I bet my local John Deere stealership has several on the showroom floor. I'll head that way next week.

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Posted By: Olddawgsrule
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 4:15pm
Sorry.. You guys are killing' me.. Why walk when you can ride? 

When electric hits the point that I can pull that stump or split all that wood.. and still mow/plow, I'm interested. Well, cost comes into mind...

I'm at a kilowatt of solar and will not move further till it makes sense... 


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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 7:29pm
Originally posted by Olddawgsrule

Sorry.. You guys are killing' me.. Why walk when you can ride? 

When electric hits the point that I can pull that stump or split all that wood.. and still mow/plow, I'm interested. Well, cost comes into mind...

I'm at a kilowatt of solar and will not move further till it makes sense... 


'Cause when you're on a 30 degree plus slope you don't want to be sitting on something that can roll over on you.  Better to be walking behind or even better standing 50 feet away and running it by remote control. Ideal would be an autonomous mower that you just let run by itself.

I agree as for mowing pastures, plowing, etc. Electric isn't there yet as I said. 

As for solar, its pretty much no brainer these days to put in a grid tied system for your residence especially if you can do it DIY and are in a net metering location. You get a 26% federal tax credit and the utility company is your battery. Investment payback is a few years at most. What's not to like? 


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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
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Posted By: john in idaho
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 10:24am
check out the Stihl self propelled electric mower.  Runs about an hour, even with bagging the clippings for garden mulch.  Then it is time for coffeee while the battery recharges.


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 10:55am
Solar might be a "no-brainer" if the orientation of the house and shading from trees allow for adequate sunshine on panels. In my case, neither is suitable due to the orientation of the house and that we live in an area with large trees. I can't pick the house up and rotate it for better orientation, but I have had a few trees cut. Neighbors have tall trees too that make solar unfeasible for us.

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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 12:03pm
I should have said its a no brainer if you have a site for it.

I ran a residential solar company for many years. The two worst things we dealt with were (1) trees and (2) architects. Trees are really pretty easy, do a survey and the either cut down the offending ones or don't do solar. The architects were harder. They insisted in putting useless bric a brac like attic dormers and false gable ends on otherwise perfectly good south facing roofs. And they insist of putting plumbing vents and flues on the back roof even if that is south facing. 

Orientation isn't really the issue folks think it is. Generally, east or west facing arrays produce only about 20% less than south facing. We can almost always find a roof face that will work if its unshaded and doesn't have architectural junk all over it.  

Personally, I prefer ground mounted solar. I don't like ladders, and the electric code requirements are simpler for ground mounts. 


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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 12:54pm
If I am reading my compass app (and if it is accurate), the ridge line of my main roof runs NW to SE, so there is a bit more sun on the one side. That is the side with the vent stacks though. It also has an uneven roof line due to both a kitchen bay window and the utility room with the water heater that make for an uneven roof. On the other side, there is the porch roof and the section over the bedroom that has a cathedral ceiling so that side of the house is essentially not usable. With the trees we have recently had trimmed or removed, we now get more sunlight than before, but there is a large oak tree that is shading the roof during the day. With the pine and maple we just had removed, we now have more light on the roof than we had before. I might have to reevaluate and see if it is feasible. 

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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 1:28pm
You want to be on the SW facing roof sounds like. If that has some plumbing vents and there is an attic its not that bad to move them to the other side. They're just plumbing vents after all, as long as they stick out above the roof somewhere its OK. If there are flues its more difficult to relocate them, we always left those alone and set the solar array around them.

You can get a rough idea of tree shading impacts from Google Earth if you live in an urban area with detailed elevation data. 

You can I'm sure get a couple local solar companies to come out and do a site survey and give you a performance estimate. A professional one will be done including shading analysis from the roof or, as is getting more common these days, using a drone. 


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