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Topic: Installing Lift - What Tire Size?
Posted By: HikerSteve
Subject: Installing Lift - What Tire Size?
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 4:29pm
This weekend I was looking at lifts for our 2017 178 since I am do for changing out the generic chinese tires that came on our trailer.

Low and behold on our way home from the campground this afternoon one of the tires decided to throw a chunk off of itself and rip half the fender off with it which in turn bounced the fender back and got sucked into what was left of the tire. I can now peel the tread off with my hands like I am peeling an orange.

Anyway I am really due for tires now so I was just wondering what tire will fit and look good after a lift?

I have a 2019 4runner that I lifted 3" with 33" tires so lifting the Pod will put it more in line with the TV.

Thanks for any ideas!

Quick edit: I need a fender too haha.



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Posted By: poston
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by HikerSteve

Anyway I am really due for tires now so I was just wondering what tire will fit and look good after a lift?

After I lifted my 180 using the lift I purchased from a forum member, I put on LT235/75R15s that I bought from another forum member.  They came installed on the Hood River Editions that already had the lift.




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Virginia City, Nevada
2016 R-pod 180
2015 Nissan Xterra Pro-4X


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 4:48pm
My 2015 178 came with a 3" lift. It is not an HRE. One of my first purchases was D rated 14" Carlisle tires which have performed well. You can make a wheel and tire exchange and go to 15" wheels and tires. Now would be the time to do it. I would recommend to anybody the move to D rated tires at a minimum. You will get a lot of positive feedback. Is the fender salvageable?

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 4:56pm
Also my opinion, if you lift TV, then use the hitch to level the TT, not modifying TT suspension to lift TT to TV. IMHO

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: HikerSteve
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by mcarter

My 2015 178 came with a 3" lift. It is not an HRE. One of my first purchases was D rated 14" Carlisle tires which have performed well. You can make a wheel and tire exchange and go to 15" wheels and tires. Now would be the time to do it. I would recommend to anybody the move to D rated tires at a minimum. You will get a lot of positive feedback. Is the fender salvageable?

Thanks for the insite. The fender is junk, it folded the back quarter in half and then I hand to do some hand wrenching on it on the side of the freeway to get it mobile again.

I'll have to look into buying a set of 15" wheels.

Originally posted by mcarter

Also my opinion, if you lift TV, then use the hitch to level the TT, not modifying TT suspension to lift TT to TV. IMHO

It is currently level, I purchased a different hitch to get the TT level. It is just really low compared to the TV and I am always afraid I will end up damaging something when we get on the fire road of the Chequamegon forest. So far so lucky but I don't see a lift hurting it any.


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 6:43pm
+1 to Mcarter. Now is the time to go to 15 wheels and LRD tires if that is the plan. I got mine premounted, put them on at home, 2540 lbs rating on both tires and wheels, but the tires are....Chinese Shocked . 

Whatever you get be sure to get 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern wheels for that axle. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: HikerSteve
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 7:02am
Originally posted by offgrid

+1 to Mcarter. Now is the time to go to 15 wheels and LRD tires if that is the plan. I got mine premounted, put them on at home, 2540 lbs rating on both tires and wheels, but the tires are....Chinese Shocked . 

Whatever you get be sure to get 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern wheels for that axle. 

What wheels did you end up getting? Thanks for the bolt pattern info, I was looking for that.

I have had no luck with the delivered tires on any of my TT's. They are always some off brand and always have an issue. This is the first time I had one completely fly apart. Worst part is the never used spare has a couple broken bands in it so I couldn't go over 50mph the rest of the ride home without shaking us to death.
That is why I just want to get something with a name behind them, Goodyear, Firestone, Michelin, etc.


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 8:01am
Originally posted by HikerSteve


I have had no luck with the delivered tires on any of my TT's. They are always some off brand and always have an issue. This is the first time I had one completely fly apart. Worst part is the never used spare has a couple broken bands in it so I couldn't go over 50mph the rest of the ride home without shaking us to death.
That is why I just want to get something with a name behind them, Goodyear, Firestone, Michelin, etc.


Order from TireRack or etrailer,, you don't get random tires or wheels.. you get exactly what you ordered.


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 8:41am
Originally posted by HikerSteve

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What wheels did you end up getting? Thanks for the bolt pattern info, I was looking for that.

That is why I just want to get something with a name behind them, Goodyear, Firestone, Michelin, etc.

I bought these, and I've been happy with them, but they don't meet your "name brand" requirement. 

https://www.easternmarine.com/loadstarr-st225-75r-15-radial-tire-aluminum-5-star-rim-lrd - https://www.easternmarine.com/loadstarr-st225-75r-15-radial-tire-aluminum-5-star-rim-lrd




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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 10:10am
I would say Carlisle Radial Trail HD's is the way to go. Some are made in china, but they are highly rated tires. Many people now say that the goodyear endurance is a good tire, but Carlisle has a long track record of being a good trailer tire. As a bonus, they are a little cheaper than the goodyear. I'm not one to recommend important things like tires based only on price, these are excellent tires that just happen to be cheaper than goodyear.

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2017.5 Rp-172
2020 R-pod 195
2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl
I'll be rpodding


Posted By: HikerSteve
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 3:20pm
Originally posted by furpod

Originally posted by HikerSteve


I have had no luck with the delivered tires on any of my TT's. They are always some off brand and always have an issue. This is the first time I had one completely fly apart. Worst part is the never used spare has a couple broken bands in it so I couldn't go over 50mph the rest of the ride home without shaking us to death.
That is why I just want to get something with a name behind them, Goodyear, Firestone, Michelin, etc.


Order from TireRack or etrailer,, you don't get random tires or wheels.. you get exactly what you ordered.

Sorry, I meant the tires that come from the factory on the TT when I take delivery. I worded that poorly.


Posted By: HikerSteve
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 3:50pm
If anyone was curious of what the tire looked like.





Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 8:04am
We have had 2 pods over a period of 11 years. We have had the original Chinese tires, Carlisles, Maxxis 8008 and now Goodyear Endurance. the Goodyear tires have been the best by far-no blowouts, no air leaks, solid sidewalls, easier towing. I would recommend them as the best trailer tire.
Regardless of which tire you buy, make sure you get them balanced. Balancing makes a huge difference.
Vann


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Vann & Laura 2015 RPod 179
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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 8:07am
Start with the type of tire, then go to brand. Most forum members (not all) will recommend you get trailer tires. Those have heavier sidewalls and run at higher pressures than light truck or auto tires, and are categorized by load range. I haven't heard of either Toyo or Michelin making trailer tires, so they might not be the best options. 

Depending on what size wheel you have and which rPod, I would suggest you get load range D or possibly LRE tires. The tires that come on the rPods are usually only LRC so are pretty marginal. Basically, you want to look at the axle rating of your rPod, which is 3500 lbs for most sizes, divide that by 2 (1750 per tire) and get a tire that has a load capacity with good safety factor above that, say around 2200 to 2500 lbs. Too high a load capacity and the trailer will get a lot of shaking on rough roads, too low and the tire can fail. 

On to brands. Lots of folks here like Goodyear trailer tires, others Carlisle, others like me are fine with Chinese brands as long as they have adequate load ratings. Whatever you get, do keep the tires properly inflated, which for trailer tires means at the tire pressure stamped on the side of the tire.

One more thing, long drives on rough rocky roads are not what rPods are designed for. You are very likely to have other problems besides tire issues. Things like bent axles and frames, broken cabinet doors, stuff coming loose, etc. If you do go ahead with your trip as planned, keep the trailer as light as possible and please do go slowly especially through potholes which can expose the trailer to heavy g forces and bend things. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 10:00am
My 2ยข:  Don't mess with tires that are not "ST," i.e. trailer tires.  The tires for cars and trucks are made for a lot of sidewall flexion that effectively destabilizes a trailer's movement, making sway more possible. Load range D will best serve most people due to the higher speed and capacity rating.  Monitor the pressure, tread wear and condition, and sidewall condition of your tires. Never run them under inflated.  It will cause them to over heat and cause one of the modes of failures: tread separation, as depicted in the picture above.  Quality brands are more likely to serve you better because the manufacturers market share depends on them having a reliable product.  Country of origin is not really a factor provided the factory has adequate quality control.

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Toyanvil
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 2:25pm
I am running Falken Wildpeak at3w 235/75r15 on my Hood River, same size and load rating as stock and made in USA. P.S. I see new trailers on the lot with LT tires stock all the time.


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 11:30am
We have had no issues with our first two sets of tires.  The originals were Tire Kings (manufactured 2009) made in China load range C.  The second set were Hartland's (manf. 2015) from Discount Tire.  These were also China tires and load range C.  No issues with either, kept a close eye on the 50 psi pressure.  This spring we went with Carlisle radial HD load range "D" and they are by far superior due to the extra strength in the sidewalls.  Also I am comfortable going a bit faster now as with the C tires I kept them at 60 mph while traveling.  With the "D" I feel ok going 70 if need be.  Overall we have traveled over 36,000 miles with our 177 and thankfully no tires issues even though we have gone over some very rocky and rough roads.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 3:57pm
We had terrible luck with the OEM Westlake tires, despite being load range D.  They have a problem with loss of air pressure while rolling.  They hold pressure fine as long as nothing is moving, but when we did a cross country trip, the air loss was enough to significantly wear the tread on the edges.  I should have checked the pressure every day on the way east but was too lazy to do it in rest areas.  By the time we arrived, the tires were already in need of replacement.  

In addition, while repairing the broken brake wires before our last trip, I discovered that the better of the two tires had a sidewall failure.  We are replacing the two Westlakes with Carlisles 205/75R15LRD's.  The third Westlake, that was mostly in the spare tire spot, is fine for now, but I'll be replacing it in the near future.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 10:27am
It's good to see we all fully agree, heh. What ever you chose, good luck and let us know how it all goes. 



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2017.5 Rp-172
2020 R-pod 195
2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl
I'll be rpodding



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