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Topic: First Time Winterizing an RV
Posted By: Poddy
Subject: First Time Winterizing an RV
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 2:37pm
That time is drawing near and i need all the info and tips i can get before i start the procedure later this month. Also, i plan to cover the fridge and water heater vents outside with a cut tarp and some tuck tape to prevent snow from getting in. I own the 2011 RP172 model. All suggestions welcome. Tks.

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2011 RP172
2015 Toyota Tacoma
Newfoundland, Canada



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Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 2:44pm
I don't think you need to cover the vents. I haven't done it in the 5 years or so I've onwed a camper. If you want, the dealer will do it for about 125.00. I just started doing that last year. I'd rather save my weekends for other stuff.

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2017.5 Rp-172
2020 R-pod 195
2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl
I'll be rpodding


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 3:49pm
Without a long narrative,- Google Rpod Winterization. Members have made some great interweb videos of both winterization procedures. Air and anti-freeze injection. I live in middle TN and use the air method, usually in December. The object is to get water out or inject antifreeze to remove chance of freezing. The water heater needs to be empty and bypassed if you use antifreeze. Don't forget the toilet valve and the outside shower. From your post I would assume you are an antifreeze owner. BTW - I also have never covered my outside vents.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 4:12pm
2011 177 owner for 9+ years, northern Michigan so a tad south of you.  Except for the first year of ownership I have used air to blow out my lines and then use a total of 16 oz. pink rv antifreeze for the 2 sink and shower drains.  The little I have left over (maybe 2 tablespoons) goes on top of the toilet valve to keep it moist throughout the winter.  No issues.  If you wish to PM me I can give you a step by step method how I have done it but mcarter has aptly directed you to look at the interweb videos and/or google r/pod winterization, that should clarify any questions you may have about this process.

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: Ben Herman
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2020 at 10:41pm
I used to have this as a Word document but a computer change left me without Word. So here it is in a reply:

Winterizing Steps:

1) Open both low-point drains underneath the camper. These usually hang down along the left edge under the floor. You will need two crescent wrenches, or equivalent - one to hold the upper "nut", one to twist off the lower nut.

2) Open the hot and cold valves on the kitchen sink, then remove the anode rod plug on the hot water heater. Water will gush out - but it will not be under pressure. Inspect and replace the anode if necessary (about every two years). The water heater must be stored dry, do not try to fill it with antifreeze. Wait for the water to stop running out of the drains and plug hole. Using a garden hose, flush any debris from inside the water heater tank. If you don't need to inspect your anode rod you can pull open the pressure relief valve at the top of the water heater to speed up the draining process (some people do not recommend doing this due to a fear of damaging it, but others do it all the time w/o a problem). Insert the anode rod, using a layer of teflon tape on the threads.

3) Turn all 3 bypass valves on the hot water heater. The valves are inside the trailer on the back of the water heater - look on the outside of the camper to see where the water heater is located. The valves on the cold and hot water lines will now be perpendicular to the water lines (closed), and the valve between the hot and cold lines will now be parallel (open).

4) Attach a "blow-out plug" to the city water connection. This has an air inlet on one end like the Schrader valves on your tires, and threads to attach to the water connection. Any RV dealer should have one of these plugs. Apply LOW pressure air (less than 20 psi) until the low-point drains stop sputtering. Close the low-point drains finger-tight.

5) Open each valve inside the camper, one at a time, until it sputters and then close it. Don't forget the toilet and shower. Remove the blow-out plug. If your camper has the black tank rinse connection, apply air to this connection for several seconds using the blow-out plug.

6) Inside the trailer, remove the access panel for the water pump (on the 171 its the same location as the water heater). On the intake line for the water pump, you'll notice a valve and about 2 1/2' of tubing that's loose on one end. A few model years did not include this at all, later models don't have the valve and you must remove the intake hose to attach the antifreeze pick-up hose. If you don't have one you can buy the pick-up hose from any dealer. Flip the valve and put the loose end into your jug of PINK RV antifreeze (DO NOT USE ORANGE OR GREEN AUTO ANTIFREEZE). The pump will now draw from the jug of antifreeze instead of your fresh water tank.

7) Turn on the switch for the water pump.

8) Turn on the taps at the sink and in the shower, one at a time. Let each run until the water is the color of your antifreeze (pink), then close it.

9) Run the toilet until the water is pink. Flush what comes out at first, but leave some of the pure antifeeze in the bowl for the winter.

10) Open the low-point drains again, let them run until you see pink. Close them tightly.

11) Pull the hose out of the antifreeze bottle just enough so it can't suck up any more antifreeze. Turn on the sink again for a second or two until the antifreeze is out of the intake line. This keeps the sticky antifreeze from running all over the floor when you pull the intake completely out of the bottle.

12) Close the valve near the water pump, stow the intake hose and close the access panel, turn off the power for the water pump.

13) Outside and underneath the trailer, open your freshwater tank's drain valve and allow it to empty.

14) Pour some RV antifreeze into the shower and sink drains to fill the water traps.

15) Make sure the black and gray waste water tanks are empty. The last dump of the season fill both tanks full of water before dumping. Repeat at least once.

16) Set the fridge's door latch so it stays open - look at the assembly on the wall of the fridge, you can slide it out some so when the door is latched it stays open enough to prevent mold from growing. Or just hang a hand towl over the door so it won't close.

17) Open the lower fridge vent and look for the white drip cup. It can be removed by pulling it towards you. Empty and replace. 

18) Remove the 9 volt batteries from the smoke and CO detectors, and make sure the lead-acid battery is disconnected.




Posted By: Grant177
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2020 at 11:44pm
Thanks for the fantastic winterizing steps....this is very helpful as I was also just wondering how to do this (first winter with my 2011 177).

Couple questions....

Q1:  Can I use a tire/inflatable toy compressor to do the blow-out or do you need a full out air-tool compressor?

Q2:  Do you open the low point drain with the pump switch ON?  Isn't that going to create a situation where you may have trouble getting the cap back on (being under pump pressure)?  Or do you turn the pump off for that step?



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Grant
2011 R-Pod 177


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2020 at 6:26am
Grant, you will need an air tool compressor to give the volume necessary to blow out all water in the lines.  Leave the pump switch OFF during this process.

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2020 at 4:17pm
+1 to Jato, I bought a pancake compressor for the purpose, relatively inexpensive.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2020 at 8:32pm
I have one important caution for you if you use a compressor--it was listed above. I want to make a special point about the air pressure. Make sure you have at least one valve/faucet  open  as the air pressure can be very high and blow out a connection if you haven't properly adjusted the compressor first.  You only need 20-25 psi to blow out the water in the lines.
Vann


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Vann & Laura 2015 RPod 179
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Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 6:00am
+1 to Vann's statement.  Our compressor is set at 85 psi and during blow out and we ALWAYS LEAVE 1 LINE OPEN !  Takes less than 2 minutes to go through both sinks and toilet 2 x.  Never even disconnected low point drains for the first 4 years of ownership.  They were safely hidden under 3" of foam sprayed over them from the factory.  After finding them (after blowing out the system) and opening them up, each side had 2 drops of water to  "drain out."  Since then (5 years ago) they haven't been opened and this is going through northern Michigan winters.  No leaks or issues encountered.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 8:56am
I haven't used the blowout method myself but to be safe, why not set the compressor down at around 20 psi? I set mine low really low when letting the grandkids blow up their pool floats just in case one of them might try to overdo things and bust their favorite floatie.Star

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 9:38am
I always have done both, blow out, then antifreeze in all water lines. I have used 35-40 p.s.i. as that echo's the recommended water pressure. Probably doesn't matter since I use anti freeze anyway. Last year I had the dealer do it, while I was getting other work done. I kinda liked not having to do it and might continue having it done. Costs about 125.00 bucks, and I have them do a quick inspection. 

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2017.5 Rp-172
2020 R-pod 195
2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl
I'll be rpodding


Posted By: PilotPodder
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 10:57am
I have the antifreeze method on video and it has what looks like the identical steps above. TechnTrek put these on this forum years ago and I used his list to do the video (the video is now three-years old but I still refer to it). One big point to make if anyone plans to use antifreeze this year - GET IT EARLY as there are so many new RVers this year and it wouldn't surprise me if stores run out in a month or so. Here is the link to the video:

https://youtu.be/173ozyKAcqk - https://youtu.be/173ozyKAcqk

~PP
 


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Portage, MI — 2017 RPod 179 - sold / 2017 Toyota Tundra — https://johnmarucci.com/r-pod-video-list/ - My RPod YouTube Videos


Posted By: Ben Herman
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 10:48pm
Others got back to before I did on #1, but on #2, open the low point drain without any air pressure. You want to open them, then blow out the water.


Posted By: Dirt Sifter
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2020 at 10:20am
I use the air compressor set at 40 lbs to match the recommended water pressure so I don't blow any lines, hopefully. Don't forget to open the toilet flush! I open the low point drains last. Have done this for 8 winters. Use antifreeze in the sinks, shower drains and in toilet bowl. NE Oregon winters can get into the -30's F on occasion. Have never covered vents.

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Greg n Deb 2020 195 HRE
'07 Tundra 5.7L., '17 Tacoma 3.5L. Both with tow packages
1 Puggle, 1 Chihuahua support staff


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2020 at 4:02pm
+1 to Dirt Sifter.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: Poddy
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2020 at 11:23am
Another quick question i thought about doing....Is it a A good idea to lift the opposite side of the RV when draining as it may help the flows of the black, gray, and fresh water drains? I thought about driving over a piece of 2x6 board on one side.

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2011 RP172
2015 Toyota Tacoma
Newfoundland, Canada


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2020 at 5:07pm
On mine, the drains are in the center for the black and gray water tanks. Tilting the trailer won't help. OTOH, the fresh water tank has a drain that is closer to the driver's side so tilting would likely help there.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Danno
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 1:30pm
Hi, 
I've got a 179 with the 4 low-point drain valves and need to replace one of them.  I've looked high and low but can't find them anywhere. Does anyone know where to buy them or what the part number is?  Thanks


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Dan


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 11:51pm
It’s just 1/2 inch PEX. So you can use any PEX to male NPT adapter and then a female NPT cap. For example:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Ecopoly-5-Pack-1-2-in-Plastic-PEX-Barb-x-1-2-in-Male-Pipe-Thread-Adapter/1002635292?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-pla-_-142-_-sospipeandfittings-_-1002635292-_-0&placeholder=null&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwf39BRCCARIsALXWETxVAN42tvQjFHDcnNIQbb9fbn4uv4O6ljwXw6OPpsEJJ4WSeAmjl6IaArlbEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

And

https://www.lowes.com/pd/LASCO-1-2-in-x-1-2-in-dia-Cap-PVC-Fitting/3371572?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-142-_-pressurepipeandfittings-_-3371572-_-0&placeholder=null&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwf39BRCCARIsALXWETyAArKzsuW8xUYtNBHEzDGFPJlrXZ2gvdFnv0jIwSb6xoWP70jOPzcaAuPcEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

You will need a PEX crimp and crimping tool for the adapter if you don’t have one. Or you could get a PEX push to MNPT adapter and cap that.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1-2-in-Push-to-Connect-x-1-2-in-MNPT-dia-Male-Adapter-Push-Fitting/1000182549?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-142-_-potablepipefittings-_-1000182549-_-0&store_code=447&placeholder=null&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwf39BRCCARIsALXWETw8CJ3rSR-3YIpRGkt97Mfoku7Nx5sJujlWs5tZQf4wsQgbhbqiE2caAorWEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds




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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Danno
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 12:01am
I hadn't even thought about using a cap but you're right - why do you need a valve when you can simply remove a cap when you want to drain it. And it won't need to hang as far down as a valve so is less susceptible to getting smacked by things.  I'll try that.  Thanks a lot!    

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Dan


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2020 at 12:14am
It’s just 1/2 inch PEX. So you can use any PEX to male NPT adapter and then a female NPT cap. For example:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Ecopoly-5-Pack-1-2-in-Plastic-PEX-Barb-x-1-2-in-Male-Pipe-Thread-Adapter/1002635292?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-pla-_-142-_-sospipeandfittings-_-1002635292-_-0&placeholder=null&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwf39BRCCARIsALXWETxVAN42tvQjFHDcnNIQbb9fbn4uv4O6ljwXw6OPpsEJJ4WSeAmjl6IaArlbEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

And

https://www.lowes.com/pd/LASCO-1-2-in-x-1-2-in-dia-Cap-PVC-Fitting/3371572?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-142-_-pressurepipeandfittings-_-3371572-_-0&placeholder=null&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwf39BRCCARIsALXWETyAArKzsuW8xUYtNBHEzDGFPJlrXZ2gvdFnv0jIwSb6xoWP70jOPzcaAuPcEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

You will need a PEX crimp and crimping tool for the adapter if you don’t have one. Or you could get a PEX push to MNPT adapter and cap that.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1-2-in-Push-to-Connect-x-1-2-in-MNPT-dia-Male-Adapter-Push-Fitting/1000182549?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-142-_-potablepipefittings-_-1000182549-_-0&store_code=447&placeholder=null&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwf39BRCCARIsALXWETw8CJ3rSR-3YIpRGkt97Mfoku7Nx5sJujlWs5tZQf4wsQgbhbqiE2caAorWEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds




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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Ciberpine
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 11:01pm
This is great information.  Thank you for the time you took to write it up.
One question:  If all the water is blown out of the plumbing, why is the anti-freeze necessary?


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Scott and Noreen
2017 R-Pod 190, 2011 Toyota Tundra
Pilgrims on the way to the Celestial City


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 11:18pm
It's not. Some folks like to use antifreeze, some compressed air. It's a personal choice.

I like antifreeze, I only use about a gallon a year, at $2.50 or so per gallon from Wally World its not a big deal, and I don't need to worry about some plain water possibly lingering somewhere.

But either approach works fine if done correctly.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Ciberpine
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 11:51pm
Thank you.


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Scott and Noreen
2017 R-Pod 190, 2011 Toyota Tundra
Pilgrims on the way to the Celestial City


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2021 at 1:50am
The 16 oz. RV antifreeze I use each fall is only used for the traps and to cover the seal on the toilet to keep it moist.  I gallon lasts me 8 years.  No antifreeze is used for the water lines.

BTW, "Pilgrim's Progress" is my 2nd favorite book ever read.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: Ciberpine
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2021 at 8:45am
Thank you, jato.  That is very helpful. 
Yes, you picked up on the bi-line.  It's my second favorite book also.  Amazing for a 400+ year old book.


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Scott and Noreen
2017 R-Pod 190, 2011 Toyota Tundra
Pilgrims on the way to the Celestial City



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