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Topic: 180 black tank issues
Posted By: Cali82
Subject: 180 black tank issues
Date Posted: 17 May 2021 at 7:29pm
Hi folks,
New full timer here, so please be nice! Not yet traveling so no bumps to jiggle things loose in the black tank. I’ve tried the little pods you drop in, I’m using RV toilet paper (and being careful of consumption), I’m leaving some water in the black tank after flushing. I’m still getting solid back up and having to flush with stick attachment to the hose in the toilet every time I empty.
Any suggestions to help a newbie out?!



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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 May 2021 at 7:35pm
Does your RPod not have a black tank flush? 

Use a good biological agent such as TankTechs Rx or RV Digest-It to help liquify the solids. Use plenty of water when flushing #2. Don't empty the tank until it is at least 2/3 full. Given that the tank sensors are notoriously unreliable, you will need to estimate when the tank is full enough to dump.

While you are at it, look up TankTechs and view the various videos there. It will be quite informative and will likely be very helpful.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Cali82
Date Posted: 17 May 2021 at 8:06pm
It does, but not getting enough pressure from the city line to completely flush it that way without the additional stick/hose flush through the actual toilet. Thank you for the tips! I will look into better chemicals and TankTechs.


Posted By: SC for Huskers
Date Posted: 17 May 2021 at 8:35pm
I use something like this that I got from Etrailer.com
Valterra Hydroflush Reverse Flush Adapter for RV Holding Tanks.   Item # F02-4100





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Happy Traveling,
Tom
2017 172pod
2011 F150 STX


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 May 2021 at 8:45pm
The hydroflush works best if there is a straight pipe into the tank. On ours, it takes a turn at the tank before heading out. I don't see it as being very effective in the case of my tank's drainage layout.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Cali82
Date Posted: 17 May 2021 at 9:11pm
Thank you gentlemen... off to check my drainage layout and explore Tom’s valve suggestion!


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 18 May 2021 at 8:29am
In addition to using a really good digester/enzyme agent to dissolve the solid waste, another thing you can do to ensure better black tank emptying is to avoid putting paper products into the tank.  Though at first thought, it's gross, it makes emptying the tank easier.  We've been doing it for since we got our 172 and have never had a problem fully emptying the black tank.  Our method is similar to that seen in countries where plumbing systems are limited.  Simply discretely fold the soiled paper and put it into a small plastic bag to be thrown away in the trash like a dirty disposable diaper.  

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 18 May 2021 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by lostagain

In addition to using a really good digester/enzyme agent to dissolve the solid waste, another thing you can do to ensure better black tank emptying is to avoid putting paper products into the tank.  Though at first thought, it's gross, it makes emptying the tank easier.  We've been doing it for since we got our 172 and have never had a problem fully emptying the black tank.  Our method is similar to that seen in countries where plumbing systems are limited.  Simply discretely fold the soiled paper and put it into a small plastic bag to be thrown away in the trash like a dirty disposable diaper.  

Yeah, that is gross.  1st through 21st thoughts.  More than that, it's unnecessary.  Plenty of water is the answer.  Have a few gallons in the black tank to start, flush the toilet with plenty of water, top of the tank before emptying it.

Why in the world have a plumbing system you don't use?  Problems can happen, but rarely with plenty of water.  Deal with the problems when they come up but enjoy having the fully-functional bathroom you paid for!

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 19 May 2021 at 6:09am
One thing that significantly reduces overall "grossness" is to use the campground bathrooms as much as possible. We reserve our rpod toilet use to numbah 1 at night only when in established campgrounds. Boondocking of course is another story.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 19 May 2021 at 8:19am
The problem with using "plenty" of water is that your tank fills really fast.  If you are boondocking or don't have easy access to a dump station that can make things complicated.  In addition, at least for me, one of the grossest things I have to do with my trailer is dump the holding tanks.  It's gross enough dealing with the drain valves, hoses, and washing out the tank.  It's even more gross when the people who were at the dump station before you weren't as tidy as they could have been and you have to deal with their mess as well as your own.  

I agree with OG that using the toilet facilities in your campground is a good alternative when they are reasonably clean.  We are on the return portion of the our trip across the country and stayed in many rest areas along the interstates.  Unfortunately, with the very high use and the limited cleaning, those restroom facilities were not as pleasant as they could have been and we used the head in our trailer for everything.  So we had to be mindful of filling the tanks too fast in order to avoid dumping along the way.  Folding a little TP is way less gross than frequent dumps in usually not too clean dump stations.

There is another element to the issue.  Those tiny rolls of RV TP are very expensive and the paper quality is, well I suppose one could say, uncomfortable, not to mention it doesn't dissolve all that well.  We use regular household thick soft paper and it not only is more comfortable, it folds nicely for discrete disposal in the little plastic bags.  No worries about having to clean out undissolved strings of paper trapped in the corrugated drain hose and fittings.  And if you like those so-called flushable wipes, the little plastic bag system accommodates their use as well.

It all boils down to personal preference, just like whether to use a WHD, a turbo or naturally aspirated engine, or eating your vegetables.  We each have our own way of solving problems and as long as we aren't hurting others and it works, go for it.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 19 May 2021 at 9:55am
I have a friend that swears by a cup of borax powder and a cup of Dawn. But, don't drain before 2/3 full and a little sloshing on the road helps a bunch. I've had no trouble using drop-in digester/deodorizer pods and not dumping too soon.

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John
'16 R-Pod 180


Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 19 May 2021 at 3:52pm
We have had 2 different pods since 2011.  In both, every time we dump our tanks, we add a capful of Calgon to the tank and about 2-3 gallons of water as well as the chemical enzyme treatment. I think the Calgon creates a slippery lining to the tank.  I use a backflush 45 degree fitting that helps.
We have never had any issues with the tank not emptying out.
Vann


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Vann & Laura 2015 RPod 179
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Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 19 May 2021 at 6:33pm
Originally posted by lostagain

The problem with using "plenty" of water is that your tank fills really fast.  I
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It all boils down to personal preference, just like whether to use a WHD, a turbo or naturally aspirated engine, or eating your vegetables.  We each have our own way of solving problems and as long as we aren't hurting others and it works, go for it.

Well, I'm okay with that, of course. I have other preferences and different experiences than yours.  And as far as filling the (black) tank really fast, it's nearly impossible to fill the black or grey tank before you have to fill your potable tank (while boondocking) and, yeah, there are fine points to this, but all of the tanks have finite limits and a certain level of planning is needed to deal with that. I've always had to dump my grey tank long before the black tank needed dumping, and have been able to dump both tanks a the same time.

As for the gross factor of emptying tanks, the personal preference thing absolutely kicks in here.  I'd be more grossed out by collecting used toilet paper.

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 19 May 2021 at 10:21pm
+1
I prefer emptying the tank to collecting used toilet paper. I stick with my recommendation of using plenty of water with #2 to prevent the "pyramid of poo."


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 20 May 2021 at 6:40am
Looks like we all agree! Poo is icky.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 20 May 2021 at 8:24am
Some times people fill their FW tank while boondocking, but have no place to dump the dirty water.   

As for the ick factor, we each have our preferences.  Personally, I've changed enough diapers in my life and unplugged stopped up plumbing that discretely folding a soiled piece of TP and putting it into a little plastic bag that gets sealed up with the zip lock is no big deal for me.  Others can't stand to even discuss the subject without feeling nauseous.  I threw that idea out there for those who can handle it.  For those who can't deal with it, don't worry, be happy, and continue to do what you do.  I was not trying to suggest it was for everyone.  


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Cali82
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2021 at 1:22am
Wow!! I must admit I’ve been off dealing with other things like buying a vehicle I can tow with and figuring how to reach the top of my slide (5’3”) to be able to access and empty the tanks.... I’m wedged at an unfortunate angle along the fence at my parent’s property with not a lot of space to reposition...
Anyway, thank you ALL for your replies... I sincerely appreciate it!!



Posted By: podwerkz
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2021 at 4:19am
Since you are 'driveway camping', when you get the urge to...'number two'....head on off to Burger King, Ikea, Home Depot, or Walmart (or whatever)....then make your 'deposit', do some eating or shopping if needed, and then return to your pod on da hill.

Infusing the local economy with money AND making a 'deposit' at the same time....makes sense when you think about it....eh?

Wink












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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!


Posted By: Shane
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 3:22pm
I have been using a powder chemical called Happy Camper in my 180 and have not had any problems with my black tank.  I also use the Commando black tank cleaner three times a year.

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ENGINE 55,TRUCK 44,BATALLION 12



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