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Topic: Wiring schematic
Posted By: Tulefog
Subject: Wiring schematic
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 2:15pm
Is there a wiring schematic for rpods? I imagine it would be slightly different for each model.


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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline






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Posted By: RoverPod
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 5:36pm
No. There are no wiring diagrams for rPods. They are not only different for each model. But they might be different each day on the same model.


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2017 F150 XLT SuperCab
2020 rPod 180


Posted By: Tulefog
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 9:37pm
Thanks I figured if it was available someone would point it out to me. I am interested in that because I want to add a back up camera and need to find a suitable power source close to the back of my 180.

Have a great weekend everyone.

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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline





Posted By: RoverPod
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2021 at 6:30am
Typically, backup cameras tap into the center clearance light for power.


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2017 F150 XLT SuperCab
2020 rPod 180


Posted By: Tulefog
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2021 at 9:49pm
There are no clearance lights on the back of a 180 but there are side clearance lights that could be used.
Thanks

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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline





Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2021 at 9:11am
There are in fact high mount clearance lights on your trailer. They are required by law. 3 lights, mounted in the spoiler.
If you do not have these, contact FR immediately. But if you go look, I am sure you will see them there.

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Posted By: Tulefog
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2021 at 12:40pm
My mistake, there are three small clear 1" diameter clearance lights in the spoiler.I will tap power for my camera from them.
Thank you for pointing this out, I guess it's time to get my eyeglass prescription checked.

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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline





Posted By: poston
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2021 at 12:56pm
Originally posted by Tulefog

My mistake, there are three small clear 1" diameter clearance lights in the spoiler

Heh, sometimes I forget about them too, but if you're around the back of the trailer at night with the lights on, you'll remember!


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Jim
Virginia City, Nevada
2016 R-pod 180
2015 Nissan Xterra Pro-4X


Posted By: RoverPod
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2021 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by Tulefog

My mistake, there are three small clear 1" diameter clearance lights in the spoiler.I will tap power for my camera from them.
Thank you for pointing this out, I guess it's time to get my eyeglass prescription checked.

Yes. My dealer tapped into the center light on the spoiler to get power for my backup camera.


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2017 F150 XLT SuperCab
2020 rPod 180


Posted By: Tulefog
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2021 at 6:13pm
Thanks that's good to know. The camera is just below that center clearance light then, maybe a foot lower?

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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline





Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2021 at 12:43pm
Even the prewired backup camera power in newer models taps off the clearance light circuit.

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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: Tulefog
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2021 at 3:21pm
Thanks I got the camera mounted and it works great.
Thanks everyone for the information.

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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline





Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2021 at 7:16pm
Has anyone replaced 1 of those 3 high clearance light bulbs? My 2011 RP-175 had 1 of the 3 burn out and I am hesitant to remove the spoiler /re-caulk etc if don't have to. So I set out to find a how to DIY tube and failed. I can barely find a proper name for the bulb but looks like this:

https://www.etrailer.com/p-PE57GR.html - https://www.etrailer.com/p-PE57GR.html

Can I just pull the bulb/grommet out and have enough slack to replace it?  I tried prying it out and it was real tight so I decided to wait and come here for a consult. Thanks.



Posted By: Tulefog
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2021 at 10:16pm
I am surprised one of these lights would fail, maybe its the wiring. 
Here is the clearance light and gromeet after pulling it out of the spoiler, carefully. The lead on the light is about six inches long and plenty for a splice or replacement. There is a lot of silicone used on the housing of the light and the lead wires. With the grommet in place on the light housing the light will pop back in place.   A new led replacement light could carefully be pushed back into the same opening.

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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline





Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 5:02am
Originally posted by Tulefog

I am surprised one of these lights would fail, maybe its the wiring. 
Here is the clearance light and gromeet after pulling it out of the spoiler, carefully. The lead on the light is about six inches long and plenty for a splice or replacement. There is a lot of silicone used on the housing of the light and the lead wires. With the grommet in place on the light housing the light will pop back in place.  A new led replacement light could carefully be pushed back into the same opening.


I was bummed it failed but only mildly surprised as I seem to be tackling a light issue of some sort every few months. I figured prying the grommet out was the first step since I would have to do that even if I removed the entire spoiler.  I do hope its just a loose wire or short inside there. I do need to re-chaulk that top side of the spoiler it seems.

Thanks for the quick reply and picture - you know a picture is always worth a thousand words!


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 5:27am
Originally posted by TeamRPod

Has anyone replaced 1 of those 3 high clearance light bulbs? My 2011 RP-175 had 1 of the 3 burn out and I am hesitant to remove the spoiler /re-caulk etc if don't have to. So I set out to find a how to DIY tube and failed. I can barely find a proper name for the bulb but looks like this:

https://www.etrailer.com/p-PE57GR.html - https://www.etrailer.com/p-PE57GR.html

Can I just pull the bulb/grommet out and have enough slack to replace it?  I tried prying it out and it was real tight so I decided to wait and come here for a consult. Thanks.



You have the correct replacement IF that is the issue.  A couple of the marker lights on my fender have done a similar thing.  Fortunately by simply unplugging and replugging it back in the socket the problem solved itself.

In a similar case (2010 171) the individual did as Tulefog did and by simply cleaning the contacts (where it plugs together) the issue was resolved, hopefully yours will as well.  And if not, at least you were able to find the correct replacement on e-trailer.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 6:36am
Originally posted by jato

You have the correct replacement IF that is the issue.  A couple of the marker lights on my fender have done a similar thing.  Fortunately by simply unplugging and replugging it back in the socket the problem solved itself.

In a similar case (2010 171) the individual did as Tulefog did and by simply cleaning the contacts (where it plugs together) the issue was resolved, hopefully yours will as well.  And if not, at least you were able to find the correct replacement on e-trailer.

Thanks for the advice yeah for $10 plus probably $10 shipping lol I am going to make sure I cannot get it back online first before buying a new one that may end up being a different shade of red. I need to measure it but it sure appears to be 3/4". 

I suspect my front/top spoiler seal is breached and water has been getting in there and will caulk.  I have never climbed up on top of my pod but may need to for that job. 

Side note a decent sized dead branch hit my pod while camping during a storm - 10 foot long 2 1/2" at the thickest part - it glanced off the front corner after I had walked by 30 seconds before. Lucky in that it missed me and that it hit the rounded part of the pod. I do need to inspect proper though up high.  Ironically I told my friends I was not fearing the trees in that state park since the trees were clearly maintained regularly. Doh! 


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 10:15am
I worked for the California Parks Dept as a summer college job. We used to call those branches over the campsites and trails widowmakers. One of my fun jobs was to remove them or tape off the campsite if the branches couldn't be reached. They are nothing to fool with. I've refused campsites several times due to overhanging branches.

You shouldn't be afraid to remove are recaulk your spoiler. You don't want to wait till it's a problem, as that problem will be a damaging leak by the time you notice it. You can inspect the wiring and replace your marker lights while you have the spoiler off. Might want to replace all 3 of them, if one has failed it's not unlikely the others are going to go soon anyhow.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 10:21am
Originally posted by offgrid

I worked for the California Parks Dept as a summer college job. We used to call those branches over the campsites and trails widowmakers. One of my fun jobs was to remove them or tape off the campsite if the branches couldn't be reached. They are nothing to fool with. I've refused campsites several times due to overhanging branches.

You shouldn't be afraid to remove are recaulk your spoiler. You don't want to wait till it's a problem, as that problem will be a damaging leak by the time you notice it. You can inspect the wiring and replace your marker lights while you have the spoiler off. Might want to replace all 3 of them, if one has failed it's not unlikely the others are going to go soon anyhow.

I live backed up to heavy woods and widow makers are for real. I often point to a forest or canopy and say: Every single thing you see there is coming down, by man or by nature.  Make no mistake

Yeah I may rip off the whole damn spoiler and stop messing around. I figure this one bulb being out may make that decision easier for me. I presume it is totally safe to be atop a 10 year old RPod... but if my sagging floor is any indication maybe that is not a wise presumption. Life is full of dangers jeez. 

I have never seen a campsite roped off - you were apart of a safe operation there. Now with demand so high... bah the campers will probably be safe. Probably. 


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 11:21am
You don't really have to get on top to access the spoiler. You can lean a ladder on the back (use some rags to protect the finish.

My summer parks job was a looong time ago, before multiple budget cuts have resulted in inadequate maintenacd staff in so many parks. But we did try to keep everyone safe. When you have branches 100 feet up in a big redwood they can really make quite a mess when they come down.

Ive never had a park employee argue with me when I point out a widowmaker to them. They are well intentioned, just too busy to keep up.



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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 11:56am
Originally posted by offgrid

You don't really have to get on top to access the spoiler. You can lean a ladder on the back (use some rags to protect the finish.

My summer parks job was a looong time ago, before multiple budget cuts have resulted in inadequate maintenacd staff in so many parks. But we did try to keep everyone safe. When you have branches 100 feet up in a big redwood they can really make quite a mess when they come down.

Ive never had a park employee argue with me when I point out a widowmaker to them. They are well intentioned, just too busy to keep up.


Thanks for the ladder tip. I have a 6' A frame but have been standing on the spare tire in my receiver/hitch so I can lean on her.  Caulking the front side would be tough with my current gig but I will borrow a ladder if needed. With my weight spread out I do feel confident my roof would hold.  Pretty confident lol. 

I may WD40 my grommet to ease removal. My pry efforts were requiring more force than I was comfortable with.  


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 12:17pm
Looking at your original picture.  Was that the way it was caulked from the factory or maybe done by a previous owner?  Looking at mine (white spoiler on a 2011) is was a much cleaner finish job than what you show on yours.

Great idea on your part to remove the whole spoiler and see what you have.  I did the same on mine a few years back, fortunately no surprises.  Got nervous hearing  about all the leak issues coming from less than idea work from the factory.  Found nothing that was defunct, actually was quite pleased with the workmanship observed under said spoiler. 


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 12:20pm
I did notice the large globs of caulk in the picture but figured up top there is no reason to skimp on the good stuff that saves our trailers from rotting out.  If I have anything picture worthy I will share. 


Posted By: Tulefog
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 12:43pm
The globs of caulk are the way it was delivered. I realize it is a little distracting but it is sealed up and watertight. On the spoiler everything is black including the caulk and not very noticeable.
Have a great weekend everyone.

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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline





Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 2:12pm
Instead of caulking the spoiler, I would suggest that you use eternabond tape on the front and sides.  Use the "advanced search" feature and there are several posts about eternabond tape and spoilers.  It is much better and easier than caulk
Vann


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Vann & Laura 2015 RPod 179
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Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 5:50pm
Turns out I could just pull the bulb outward and the grommet stayed in place. 

I ripped the bandaid err spoiler off.  It wasn't sealed fully so it was easy to remove and there was a lot of debris under there. I couldn't remove the wire caps on my faulty light (lucky it was the last of the 3) so just cut the 4 wires and re-spliced - fail - no light. One of the wires metal was awful dark. I got the multimeter out and sure enough I have 12.2 volts so I am going to replace the light.  

It was all dirty as hell and so I power washed everything and probably will cause a few more issues haha. 

Power was fed from the interior on the far right/passenger side edge under the spoiler, to anyone curious where their power feed may be. I didnt need to get up onto the roof and there was enough slack in the electrical to let the spoiler hang off the side. 

Order placed at etrailer and I have a week to check out eternabond. 


Posted By: Tulefog
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 7:51pm
Good deal. You found the problem with the light and a better seal than caulk. The seal around my spoiler is going to need replacement in the next year, might try the tape.


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2021 Rpod 180 2006 Ridgeline





Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 8:26pm
Originally posted by Tulefog

Good deal. You found the problem with the light and a better seal than caulk. The seal around my spoiler is going to need replacement in the next year, might try the tape.

I am not sure if I will go with the tape just yet - but its a proper solution for sure. I suspect I will have another light go out and the tape may be a bit to wrestle with as it seems like a permanent solution - probably last longer than my pod lol. 

The gap on the front of the spoiler seems reasonable to caulk. The wiring/wire caps will be taped up (electrical) and taped up into the spoiler (I love HVAC foil tape) and the backs of the light (and around the grommet) can be covered over with caulk. That leaves the screw holes and the wiring exit as potential breaches which I will probably just take care of with a little plumbers putty - another fav of mine. 

My bigger question is whether I will fully seal the backside... I presume so but may leave a small water drain point or 2. 




Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 9:38pm
actually, most use the eternabond tape on the forward edge and the 2 short sides, leaving the bottom edge  open for drainage.

I cleaned all of the old caulk off with a plastic scraper and mineral spirits.  cleaned it well with more mineral spirits and a plastic scrubber pad. I then applied a short piece on each side.  Last, put one full length piece across the front edge of the spoiler going from outside edge to outside edge of the 2 side tape strips.  roll over it with a roller for good adherence.
should last forever

Vann


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Vann & Laura 2015 RPod 179
https://postimg.cc/0zwKrfB9">


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2021 at 10:03pm
Originally posted by Pod People

actually, most use the eternabond tape on the forward edge and the 2 short sides, leaving the bottom edge  open for drainage.

I cleaned all of the old caulk off with a plastic scraper and mineral spirits.  cleaned it well with more mineral spirits and a plastic scrubber pad. I then applied a short piece on each side.  Last, put one full length piece across the front edge of the spoiler going from outside edge to outside edge of the 2 side tape strips.  roll over it with a roller for good adherence.
should last forever

Vann


Thanks for the info! I have a week to decide my plan.

Can eternabond be fairly easily removed if I lose another clearance light, or maybe just cut with a razor and eternabond over it?


Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2021 at 10:09am
I don't think you will remove eternabond tape without a LOT of effort.
I'm sure you can cut it and recover if necessary.

Vann


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Vann & Laura 2015 RPod 179
https://postimg.cc/0zwKrfB9">


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2021 at 11:31am
Originally posted by Pod People

I don't think you will remove eternabond tape without a LOT of effort.
I'm sure you can cut it and recover if necessary.

Vann


Yeah that name sure sounds close to ETERNAL and figured it aint coming off easy.  I envision just a razor cut if I needed to remove and then just slap an identical size piece right on top.


Posted By: 2BOverlanding
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2021 at 12:25pm
some of the older models do not have the spoiler




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